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| josch | minute: would you like me to move general issues I created in reform-debian-packages, reform-system-image and reform into the bugs project instead? | 01:37 |
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| minute | josch: about the rebooting, i was also surprised. i guess they didn't exactly remembered what happened there | 10:35 |
| minute | josch: b) you're right. the warning is already there | 10:37 |
| minute | josch: about moving general issues to bugs, that would be great yes | 10:37 |
| josch | minute: cool, then i'll move some things over | 10:40 |
| josch | i fear they will get lost in their individual issue pages otherwise | 10:40 |
| josch | and thank you for confirming | 10:40 |
| josch | i just booted a system image with my changes that should fix things on BoostisBetter's imx8mq classic reform and already found two more bugs | 10:41 |
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| BoostisBetter | awesome and kind of a bummer at the same time. But to me it all sounds like progress which is awesome! | 11:44 |
| josch | BoostisBetter: no bummer at all -- i highly value these bug reports and things were relatively easy to fix :) | 11:47 |
| - Ar|stote|is (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~linx@149.210.33.155) | 11:53 | |
| josch | minute: hehe this gets complicated very fast. *if* the current system is on sd-card and the user just set up a /boot partition on eMMC then indeed they should first poweroff, then remove the sd-card and then power on again or otherwise the u-boot will load /boot from sd-card again | 12:25 |
| josch | minute: *except* if the user is on imx8mq and has the DIP switch set such that the system will load u-boot from sd-card and then the system will not boot at all when the sd-card is removed /o\ | 12:25 |
| josch | ACTION is adding another if/else... | 12:26 |
| minute | josch: ufff | 12:26 |
| minute | but otoh it's nice to keep the old systems running smoothly | 12:26 |
| minute | i was surprised how usable the imx8mq classic still is with sway | 12:26 |
| + andypiper_ (~Srain@89.36.117.58) | 12:26 | |
| josch | you have been using it again recently? | 12:26 |
| minute | not personally, but yesterday did a lengthy servicing on a customer's laptop which had serial number in the 30s | 12:27 |
| josch | minute: i think i fixed all the bugs in https://source.mnt.re/bugs/bugs/-/issues/24 now -- would you or wakest like to try this as well before i tag a new reform-tools release or should i just go ahead and do it? | 12:27 |
| josch | wo | 12:27 |
| josch | *wow | 12:27 |
| josch | #161 over here | 12:28 |
| minute | josch: the changes look good to me, read through everything | 12:33 |
| minute | josch: if you tested the basic functionality it's fine for me to release as it is better than the old version | 12:34 |
| josch | yes, i've tested the scenario that you described that wakest had recently | 12:34 |
| BoostisBetter | > i was surprised how usable the imx8mq classic still is with sway | 12:35 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: the OG imx8mq is still TOTALLY usable. And one of the real good things about it is that because it has been out for so long and in use for so long it is also the most stable and polished. Suspend works on it for example and that is awesome! | 12:35 |
| josch | well, it works on *some* units :) | 12:36 |
| minute | hehe. also it has graphical uboot | 12:36 |
| minute | something that the other modules still look up to ^^ | 12:36 |
| BoostisBetter | josch: what do you mean? How is it not working on all of them? Have you had reports of that being a thing? | 12:36 |
| josch | BoostisBetter: yes, as you know i've used the imx8mq for over a year as my main device and suspend/resume was *not* working | 12:38 |
| minute | maybe it depends on the silicon rev | 12:39 |
| BoostisBetter | > BoostisBetter: yes, as you know i've used the imx8mq for over a year as my main device and suspend/resume was *not* working | 12:40 |
| BoostisBetter | Yes but wasn't the last time you used it before you made the fix? | 12:40 |
| josch | BoostisBetter: no, the fix i made was to fix something that broke due to a new kernel version last year, so long after i had mine | 12:41 |
| + andypiper__ (~Srain@89.36.117.58) | 12:53 | |
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| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 12:58 | |
| josch | minute: what is your opinion on https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/issues/24 -- i'm about to add reform-migrate, reform-flash-uboot, reform-emmc-bootstrap and reform-flash-rescue to the reform-help output. Thoughts? | 12:59 |
| josch | minute: i've also just moved the relevant issues that I'm the author of from reform-debian-packages and reform-system-image into the bugs/bugs issue tracker. I cannot move those in the reform/reform issue tracker because I lack the necessary privileges. You'd have to do the issue moving. | 13:01 |
| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 13:02 | |
| minute | josch: i think it's good to add these to reform-help. i think the reform-help executable did more/different stuff in the past and now just this stub remains | 13:03 |
| minute | josch: thanks for moving the stuff! | 13:03 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 13:04 | |
| josch | yeeees i think the common bug tracker is a good idea especially considering how many issues affect classic, pocket *and* next | 13:04 |
| josch | i found even more bugs, so now another round of testing :) | 13:05 |
| minute | :00 | 13:10 |
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| josch | done | 13:59 |
| josch | tagged and uploaded to Debian unstable | 13:59 |
| josch | but it will need to wait for binary-NEW processing | 13:59 |
| minute | josch: awesome, thank you very much | 14:04 |
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| josch | you've welcome! :) | 15:55 |
| josch | *you're | 15:55 |
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| abortretryfail | Re: imx8mq reform - graphical u-boot is enough to keep me from upgrading tbh. I've had to use it to switch kernels or try and fix things enough times that I can't see not having it. | 19:51 |
| + andypiper (~Srain@45.146.11.160) | 20:13 | |
| josch | abortretryfail: i have the direct comparison between the a311d (i'm typing on) and imx8mq (to my right) and i don't think you are missing very much | 21:21 |
| josch | the increased cpu performance is nice for some things but not critical for most things i do | 21:21 |
| abortretryfail | The big thing I'm missing is better GPU support. Not necessarily performance, but feature coverage. | 21:21 |
| minute | strange, i thought someone on github or so had a patch for rk3588 video support in uboot, but can't find it atm (and also can't find it in the irc logs here) | 21:43 |
| minute | ah wait, we can just use edk2 instead of uboot | 21:50 |
| minute | problem solved | 21:50 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: do you think the imx8mp is powerful enough to run a Windows 98 VM? | 21:59 |
| josch | BoostisBetter: it will be powerful enough but it will be veeeeeeeeery slow | 22:03 |
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| BoostisBetter | josch: ok. I guess the Reform Next with the whooper that is the RK will make this less of a problem. | 22:21 |
| BoostisBetter | Because not only will it be able to run Windows 98 but it will be able to run Windows software on top of that. | 22:22 |
| minute | it can also run windows arm natively if you need that | 22:22 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: wow mind blown! | 22:23 |
| minute | (alas without gpu accel) | 22:23 |
| BoostisBetter | I'm happy on Linux but I do still need Windows occasionally. | 22:24 |
| minute | https://github.com/worproject/Rockchip-Windows-Drivers | 22:24 |
| minute | qemu-kvm might work a little better for such usecases | 22:25 |
| BoostisBetter | so that is awesome news. But I think I'll still to running it through a vm. It is easy to air-gap it. | 22:25 |
| BoostisBetter | so that is awesome news. But I think I'll still run it through a vm. It is easy to air-gap it that way. | 22:25 |
| BoostisBetter | I think an RK for the Pocket is definately in the future for me. Just waiting a little longer for more of the kinks to be worked out on it. | 22:27 |
| josch | BoostisBetter: qemu-kvm is a vm | 22:30 |
| BoostisBetter | josch, isn't it a hypervisor? | 22:30 |
| josch | BoostisBetter: kvm is a hypervisor. qemu can use kvm to allow your VM more direct access to your computer's hardware, thus allowing near native speeds | 22:44 |
| minute | intense https://gist.github.com/Vogtinator/293c4f90c5e92838f7e72610725905fd#file-readme-md | 23:19 |
| BoostisBetter | indeed | 23:24 |
| minute | works for me only with kvm disabled though | 23:39 |
| minute | (otherwise it hangs) | 23:39 |
| minute | ah, -smp 1 works with kvm | 23:43 |
| minute | so i guess it's the big.LITTLE issue | 23:43 |
| minute | with kvm it boots very quickly into the installer | 23:44 |
| minute | with -smp1 it's very fast though... weird :D | 23:48 |
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