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| zeha | thanks for reformatting the patches | 09:45 |
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| josch | it's still only cosmetic only though | 09:49 |
| zeha | if it makes git am work, already better | 09:50 |
| josch | now i just need a workflow where this is relevant :d | 09:50 |
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| josch | oh wow, one of the hinges of my classic reform just broke o0 | 10:49 |
| [tj] | unhinged | 10:57 |
| josch | haha indeed | 10:58 |
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| josch | https://mister-muffin.de/p/2Ng8.webm | 11:04 |
| josch | did this happen to somebody before? | 11:04 |
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| BoostisBetter | no. But it looks like the mount points for the hinge are loose, miost likely in the display. | 11:10 |
| BoostisBetter | most likely just a consewquence of time and usage. | 11:11 |
| josch | hinges come use after four years of full-time use... can't believe it! ;) | 11:11 |
| josch | *loose | 11:11 |
| BoostisBetter | four years seems like a REALLY good length of time for this to manifest. | 11:13 |
| josch | i cannot investigate right now because i'm still in the process of reform-tools -- later i'll open it up and see what's going on | 11:14 |
| josch | *in the process of fixing reform-tools | 11:14 |
| BoostisBetter | I do wonder if this means the threads for the screws holding the hinge firm are warped and not holding or if internal in the hinge itself are the issue. Good news is that you can easily repair it | 11:14 |
| BoostisBetter | gotcha | 11:15 |
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| minute | josch: if you look closely the hinge is moving inside the body of reform, so it's probably just loose screws there. | 13:07 |
| minute | josch: you can check by removing the keyboard frame. | 13:08 |
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| * Guest825 -> mjw | 13:13 | |
| josch | minute: plausible because those are missing loctite XD | 13:19 |
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| BoostisBetter | josch: minute: The Reform is built like a tank and it is awesome. | 15:03 |
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| BoostisBetter | minute: one more question for that order you all are working on for me, if I were to order the rk3588 upgrade kit would it be possible to include that with the rest of the stuff? | 15:50 |
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| minute | josch: new issue with reform-boot-config, i'm trying to migrate my classic reform's /boot from sd card to emmc (rk3588) http://dump.mntmn.com/reform-tools-170-boot-config-bug.txt | 16:15 |
| minute | BoostisBetter: it can be combined or shipped as two separate orders, as you wish | 16:15 |
| minute | josch: it has changed my fstab but did not copy anything to the new /boot | 16:16 |
| minute | tried again (after reverting my fstab), it just doesn't do the copy... | 16:19 |
| minute | josch: also, boot is mounted 2 times after running the script, both on mmcblk1p1 and mmcblk0p1. so maybe the umount doesn't work? | 16:20 |
| minute | + umount //boot | 16:22 |
| minute | + echo I: Unmounting //boot successful. | 16:22 |
| minute | so at this time the old boot is unmounted. then it does + mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 //boot | 16:23 |
| minute | so the new boot is mounted. | 16:23 |
| minute | strange, this time it suddenly works (when running with set -xeu) | 16:24 |
| minute | strangely, this time it says: + echo I: Reboot your MNT Reform by running 'systemctl reboot'. | 16:24 |
| minute | which is wrong in this case, for the last run it was correct (the one that didn't copy any files) | 16:25 |
| josch | minute: nooo! I just made a new release XD | 16:29 |
| josch | okay, reading backlog now :) | 16:29 |
| josch | also, it's not loose screws: https://mister-muffin.de/p/2UOG.jpg | 16:30 |
| josch | huh | 16:31 |
| minute | josch: oh wow, the hinge actually broke :00 | 16:31 |
| josch | opening and closing twice per day for four years might've been too much for the poor thing :D | 16:33 |
| josch | well, more like 3.5 years | 16:33 |
| josch | but i see you sell hinges in the shop | 16:33 |
| josch | time for a new order \o/ | 16:33 |
| minute | josch: :00 | 16:34 |
| Sario | Reparability!!!! | 16:34 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: ahhh so the RK3588 kits are in stock! Awesome! I would prefer just putting it all in one order. Do you want me to just tell you what the new order number is so you can combine it? | 16:34 |
| minute | BoostisBetter: don't tell me please, i shouldn't really handle support requests, especially outside of the support system... it will just become a mess | 16:36 |
| BoostisBetter | josch: so the welded pieces came loose? Woah! time and pressure huh? | 16:36 |
| minute | BoostisBetter: if you could kindly go via support@mntre.com | 16:36 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: absolutely NO problem and totally makes sense. You have far more important things to attend to. | 16:37 |
| josch | minute: can you tell me more about the original setup that you were running reform-boot-config in? It was a system with encrypted rootfs on nvme and /boot on sd-card and then, while that system was running, you ran reform-boot-config to move /boot from sd-card to emmc? I can try and replicate that setup on BoostisBetter's unit. | 16:37 |
| minute | josch: yes. | 16:39 |
| josch | okay, i'll come back to you in case i need more input, thanks! | 16:40 |
| minute | josch: it somehow got confused about the /boot's and ended up not copying the files. maybe source and destination ended up being the same? i had made a fresh partition layout + boot partition on the emmc before. (1 gb boot partition) | 16:40 |
| minute | btw in the end my system is booting from emmc now (yay) but i had to pay attention | 16:41 |
| josch | definitely suboptimal -- thank you for reporting this. I hope I can replicate it. | 16:42 |
| josch | it also shows that maybe reform-boot-config should print more about its internal state | 16:42 |
| josch | as it's not clear what is going on from the output | 16:42 |
| minute | funnily, i tried to install gnome, and gdm works now, but it fails to start gnome (just goes back to gdm). debugging now why | 16:43 |
| minute | josch: yeah | 16:43 |
| minute | josch: also the double slash before boot is a bit strange, but probably harmless? | 16:43 |
| josch | it is harmless | 16:43 |
| josch | i was thinking about removing it but since string operations in shell are not quite obvious i was afraid of introducing more bugs instead | 16:44 |
| josch | the reason for the two slashes is, that if you run reform-boot-config for *another* rootfs, then the mountpoint of that rootfs will be between the first two slashes | 16:45 |
| josch | but i see how it's confusing... let me just remove the double slash... | 16:45 |
| josch | minute: do you happen to know a rough ETA on the shipping of hinges out of the top of your head maybe? | 16:48 |
| minute | josch: they're in stock, if you could write a little note to support@mntre.com mentioning this convo we can prioritize them | 16:52 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: message to support sent. Thanks again. | 16:57 |
| josch | minute: moving /boot from sd-card to emmc on a system running on encrypted nvme and which has /boot mounted from sd-card worked fine with reform-tools 1.71: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/ae5b84b6 | 17:05 |
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| josch | (notice also the improved messages after our last conversation on the topic a few days ago) | 17:05 |
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| minute | josch: ok, not sure what happened here then... and yes, the messages were already improved! | 17:15 |
| ZetaR | Hi everyone. I recently ordered my Reform Next and I wanted to share a small idea for the WiFi antenna. There are small multiband WiFi antennas that are designed to be screwed into a ground plane (i.e. the outside of the case) on Digikey. EMB-910002, EMB-910003, and LCSMA1014. They would need a small 3D printed cover. I know this is probably too late in the design process for consideration, but I can't help but think that there could | 17:24 |
| ZetaR | be another port where the WiFi antenna currently is (I would love to have a full sized SD reader). | 17:24 |
| ZetaR | Link to EMB-910002 info: https://www.pctel.com/antenna-product/tri-band-inverted-f-antenna-for-2-4-5-6-ghz-wifi/ | 17:24 |
| minute | ZetaR: not too late actually | 17:26 |
| minute | ZetaR: interesting idea, thanks! | 17:27 |
| ZetaR | minute: Sure! I hope it is helpful. | 17:28 |
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| ZetaR | On the installation instructions there are some 3D images of radiation patterns showing that the signal wraps around the edge of the ground plane if the antenna is put near the edge of the plane, otherwise if it is in the center it only makes a half-sphere. One of the disadvantages of being very near to the ground plane I guess. | 17:32 |
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| minute | ZetaR: interesting | 17:43 |
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| mhoye | A minor thing I learned just now that may help somebody: trying to rescue my beloved laptop, I booted off an SD card to chroot in and repair an interrupted install. | 18:47 |
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| mhoye | Normally you'd just mount the drive and chroot into that to save yourself here, but once I did that networking stopped working inside the chrooted environment. | 18:48 |
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| mhoye | The error turned out to be "/etc/resolv.conf was stale and pointed at the DNS server from the last network it was connected to" which was now incorrect. | 18:50 |
| mhoye | since I didn't strictly _boot_ the original drive, and resolv.conf is autogenerated, dns didn't work. Editing /etc/resolv.conf manually to point to 1.1.1.1 (or any known-good DNS) solves this and got me on my way. | 18:51 |
| josch | mhoye: oh yes, I've had this happen as well. Glad you found out the fix! | 18:58 |
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| minute | interesting, my gnome desktop on rk3588 on hdmi monitor uses XR30 color format | 20:22 |
| minute | that's 30 bit color | 20:23 |
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| josch | huh I wonder... how do I fit the display cable connector through the hinge?? o0 | 20:52 |
| minute | josch: ah yeah that requires a bit of practice... not 100% sure but i think back then there was a plastic plug that went into the hinge holding the cable inside? | 20:57 |
| minute | not sure if we used these plugs later | 20:58 |
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| + jacobk (~quassel@47-186-65-73.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 21:28 | |
| abortretryfail | mine doesn't have a plastic plug | 21:31 |
| abortretryfail | It's from CrowdSupply in 2023. | 21:31 |
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| minute | ok so maybe we did that only in the very beginning | 23:51 |
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