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| * mark_ -> mjw | 00:25 | |
| + Guest5200 (~mjw@2001:1c06:2486:a800:7602:5eff:dc71:a72c) | 00:25 | |
| kfx | oh, found it | 00:31 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@h211.16.186.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) | 01:48 | |
| kfx | minute: new lpc firmware and driver installed and working great! | 02:02 |
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| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~paperManu@107.159.213.145) | 03:02 | |
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| + nsc (~nicolas@i5C74DDFB.versanet.de) | 03:23 | |
| + arminweigl_ (~arminweig@sourcehut/user/arminweigl) | 03:25 | |
| - arminweigl (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~arminweig@sourcehut/user/arminweigl) | 03:26 | |
| * arminweigl_ -> arminweigl | 03:26 | |
| kop316 | Hello from my pocket reform running GNOME! | 04:30 |
| + RandyK (~RandyK@user/randyk) | 05:19 | |
| josch | kop316: _o/ | 07:29 |
| josch | wickedshell: i would just put them left and right of the copper center onto the lid | 07:38 |
| josch | that being said, i thought i had read an article by minute with photos on the forums about antenna placement but i cannot find it | 07:39 |
| josch | and pdfs like https://mntre.com/documentation/pocket-reform-diy-assembly-manual.pdf or the a311d upgrade manual also do *not* show antenna placement o0 | 07:39 |
| josch | wickedshell: i also had bad luck with my LTE antenna when I pasted it to the lid. I got no signal at all. Wouldn't even register with the network. So no I have it wrapped in tape laying loosely inside the body. | 07:40 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9ace:3000:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 07:49 | |
| josch | minute: building images for amd64 is not hard. I have a POC here: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/merge_requests/133 | 07:57 |
| josch | i can make it pretty later today, probably by adding an --arch=amd64 option (which defaults to arm64) | 07:58 |
| josch | minute: luckily i have a rk3588 now where emulating amd64 to test this was not the worst | 07:58 |
| BoostisBetter | Minute: a special bitte from please, but please try to get that pocket KB replacement out. I can once again not use the pocket because the KB keeps disconnecting from the system. You can only get it back with a power cycle. | 09:28 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: I am honestly not sure if it is the USB hub or the sysctrl that are the culprit. | 09:28 |
| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9ace:3000:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 09:45 | |
| minute | josch: thanks a ton! | 09:51 |
| minute | BoostisBetter: please write a line to support@mntre.com with your existing order number and say you need the RMA replacement pocket kb again added to that order | 10:14 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: I already wrote shop@mntre.com about it by I didn't associate it with my rk upgrade order because I am not sure of the timeline there. | 10:16 |
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| gsora | for rk3588 is there any suggested list for nvme ssd? | 10:30 |
| + colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-88-166.tukw.qwest.net) | 10:36 | |
| - colinsane (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~colinunin@97-113-88-166.tukw.qwest.net) | 10:40 | |
| BoostisBetter | gsora: The one that MNT ships would be the best choice I imagine. | 10:52 |
| gsora | hope it's not an exclusive list :^) i remember there were a few issues with imx8 | 10:55 |
| + colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-82-94.tukw.qwest.net) | 10:56 | |
| + josch-pocket (~josch-poc@80.239.189.50) | 11:03 | |
| + josch-pocket_ (~josch-poc@80.239.189.48) | 11:14 | |
| - josch-pocket (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~josch-poc@80.239.189.50) | 11:14 | |
| * josch-pocket_ -> josch-pocket | 11:14 | |
| + josch-pocket_ (~josch-poc@194.213.108.11) | 11:20 | |
| - josch-pocket_ (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~josch-poc@194.213.108.11) | 11:21 | |
| + josch-pocket_ (~josch-poc@194.213.108.12) | 11:21 | |
| - josch-pocket (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~josch-poc@80.239.189.48) | 11:21 | |
| * josch-pocket_ -> josch-pocket | 11:21 | |
| - josch-pocket (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~josch-poc@194.213.108.12) | 11:23 | |
| + josch-pocket (~josch-poc@194.213.108.11) | 11:23 | |
| gordon1 | gsora: i would, as a general piece of advice, vote against using super-duper high-end fast gaming nvmes, first rk3588 probably won't be able to utilize full potential, secondly in my experience with some ASPM/clkreq features missing (and on my rk3588 rock5b+ for example it supports only L1) it can get quite hot (60°C+) even in idle, tested with WD black | 11:27 |
| - josch-pocket (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~josch-poc@194.213.108.11) | 11:28 | |
| gordon1 | controller gets hot, not flash itself | 11:28 |
| + josch-pocket (~josch-poc@194.213.108.11) | 11:32 | |
| josch-pocket | i just sorted the list of available ssds by power consumption and picked one of those that were among the least energy hungry | 11:33 |
| - josch-pocket (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~josch-poc@194.213.108.11) | 11:37 | |
| gsora | thanks for the info! i'm in general keen on getting something with dram, as I had quite bad luck with dramless ssds | 11:40 |
| - L29Ah (QUIT: Read error: Connection timed out) (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) | 11:45 | |
| + mesaoptimizer (~mesa@user/PapuaHardyNet) | 11:46 | |
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| - chrcav (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~chrcav@user/chrcav) | 12:21 | |
| + chrcav (~chrcav@user/chrcav) | 12:22 | |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@107.159.213.145) | 12:47 | |
| - svp (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~svp@host-79-7-240-189.business.telecomitalia.it) | 13:01 | |
| + gustav28 (~gustav@c-78-82-53-92.bbcust.telenor.se) | 13:02 | |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9ace:3000:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 13:25 | |
| abortretryfail | josch: Oh, cool. I'll have to drop by where the 9Front folks hang out and tell cinap_lenrek thanks. | 13:42 |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 13:44 | |
| + svp (~svp@host-79-7-240-189.business.telecomitalia.it) | 13:45 | |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 13:49 | |
| * Guest5200 -> mjw | 14:32 | |
| bkeys | With rk3588 is there a switch I can use to boot from SD instead of the emmc? | 14:36 |
| bkeys | I want to do a comparison of edk VS uboot booting Fedora | 14:36 |
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| - svp (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~svp@host-79-7-240-189.business.telecomitalia.it) | 14:58 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 15:05 | |
| + bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 15:07 | |
| - bkeys1 (QUIT: Client Quit) (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 15:08 | |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 15:10 | |
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| + bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 15:12 | |
| + svp (~svp@host-79-7-240-189.business.telecomitalia.it) | 15:14 | |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 15:15 | |
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| - bkeys (QUIT: Client Quit) (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 15:18 | |
| + bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 15:18 | |
| * bkeys1 -> bkeys | 15:21 | |
| + bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 15:22 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 15:25 | |
| * bkeys1 -> bkeys | 15:25 | |
| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9ace:3000:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 17:03 | |
| wickedshell | josch: That was my inclination as well. I thought I had read an article on the forum as well, but couldn't find it which is why I ended up asking here :P | 17:11 |
| wickedshell | Gonna just go with the obvious left/right then :) | 17:11 |
| - svp (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~svp@host-79-7-240-189.business.telecomitalia.it) | 17:19 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 17:22 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 17:22 | |
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| + bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 17:33 | |
| wickedshell | Seems just fine so far. Not a great A-B test since I did the backplate swap at the same time... Although now seems tempting to have 2 different wlan's connected at once... | 17:34 |
| * bkeys1 -> bkeys | 17:35 | |
| wickedshell | Is there a shutdown mode for the onboard wifi module of the imx8mp? (If I'm not using it I'd love to save the power) | 17:36 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Quit: With every step we take, danger will follow closely) (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 17:38 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 17:39 | |
| + svp (~svp@host-79-7-240-189.business.telecomitalia.it) | 17:41 | |
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| + arminweigl_ (~arminweig@sourcehut/user/arminweigl) | 17:53 | |
| + colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-82-94.tukw.qwest.net) | 17:55 | |
| - arminweigl (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~arminweig@sourcehut/user/arminweigl) | 17:55 | |
| * arminweigl_ -> arminweigl | 17:55 | |
| + svp (~svp@host-79-7-240-189.business.telecomitalia.it) | 17:57 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 18:00 | |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 18:16 | |
| + Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.0.43) | 18:40 | |
| - Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 18:42 | |
| + L29Ah (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) | 19:10 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 19:12 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@173.186.16.211) | 19:15 | |
| bkeys | josch: Will the Reform rk3588 boot from SD card by default if one is present? | 19:44 |
| josch | bkeys: if u-boot from MNT is on emmc, then u-boot will check the first partition of usb drive, sd-card and emmc in that order for boot.scr or extlinux.conf and use the first one it finds | 19:48 |
| bkeys | No I have the EDK2 still on here | 19:48 |
| bkeys | Although the guy who is the Fedora ARM maintainer seems to think uboot is better than edk2 | 19:48 |
| josch | huh | 19:48 |
| bkeys | I like having a nice EDK2 menu but stuff like hardware accel isn't working | 19:48 |
| bkeys | So if I had to use uboot and it could get me Fedora I'd be happy with that | 19:49 |
| bkeys | The thing is unless I could load uboot from SD card, I have to boot something from EDK2 which ACPI doesn't let the kernel see my emmc so I can't flash the emmc | 19:49 |
| bkeys | If I change to device tree on edk2 it just straight won't boot | 19:50 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~Thunderbi@173.186.16.211) | 19:54 | |
| + Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 19:56 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 19:58 | |
| - nsc (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~nicolas@i5C74DDFB.versanet.de) | 19:59 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Client Quit) (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 20:00 | |
| minute | maybe one can load uboot from edk2? | 20:01 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 20:01 | |
| minute | bkeys: this looks interesting https://github.com/TravMurav/dtbloader | 20:05 |
| minute | bkeys: also maybe you can get into uefi shell and load the dtb from a usb stick somehow? | 20:05 |
| minute | (or sd card) | 20:06 |
| + josch-pocket (~josch-poc@195.12.232.246) | 20:15 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Quit: With every step we take, danger will follow closely) (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 20:26 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 20:28 | |
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| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 20:46 | |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 20:52 | |
| - Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 20:53 | |
| + Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 20:57 | |
| * mjw -> Guest7734 | 20:57 | |
| - Guest7734 (QUIT: Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))) (~mjw@2001:1c06:2486:a800:7602:5eff:dc71:a72c) | 20:57 | |
| * mark_ -> mjw | 20:57 | |
| + Guest7734 (~mjw@2001:1c06:2486:a800:7602:5eff:dc71:a72c) | 20:58 | |
| kfx | the openbsd changelog for 7.7 mentions fixing boot on reform 2 with rk3588 -- anyone here know how to try that? | 21:00 |
| + bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 21:02 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 21:05 | |
| - bkeys1 (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 21:05 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 21:05 | |
| spew | patrick wildt aka bluerise did the work you could maybe ask him | 21:13 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 21:16 | |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9ace:3000:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 21:17 | |
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| + nsc (~nicolas@i5C74DDFB.versanet.de) | 21:20 | |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 21:30 | |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 21:48 | |
| + bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 21:52 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 21:56 | |
| * bkeys1 -> bkeys | 21:57 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 22:01 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@h211.16.186.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) | 22:08 | |
| - gustav28 (QUIT: Quit: Quit) (~gustav@c-78-82-53-92.bbcust.telenor.se) | 22:15 | |
| minute | josch: thanks for doing the amd64 poc, not sure if i understood what went wrong in the pipeline though | 22:16 |
| josch-pocket | whoops i do | 22:19 |
| josch-pocket | fixing... | 22:20 |
| + Gooberpatrol_66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 22:36 | |
| josch-pocket | minute: do you want some sort of bootloader with your amd64 images or are you booting with -kernel -initrd? | 22:37 |
| - Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 22:38 | |
| + AnimaInvicta (~AnimaInvi@88-120-179-216.subs.proxad.net) | 22:46 | |
| - josch-pocket (QUIT: Quit: josch-pocket) (~josch-poc@195.12.232.246) | 22:53 | |
| minute | josch: oh, bootloader... didn't think about that, even | 23:28 |
| minute | josch: depends how much effort that is, if the image just works it would be comfy of course | 23:29 |
| minute | josch: we could even offer it to people who just want to try out what the reform customizations are approx. | 23:29 |
| josch | then it depends -- do you want BIOS bootloader (extlinux) or EFI (ukify)? | 23:33 |
| josch | oh even easier woudl be to use grub-mkrescue | 23:36 |
| digitalrane | I sense a sidequest starting | 23:37 |
| josch | nah, it's mostly copypasta -- i have the code here in several different other projects :) | 23:38 |
| minute | josch: easiest is best :D otherwise EFI preferred :D | 23:53 |
| - AnimaInvicta (PART: !!unknown attribute: msg!!) (~AnimaInvi@88-120-179-216.subs.proxad.net) | 23:54 | |
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