| minute | jana: nice! i think that's how i started again after leaving irccloud many years ago, and then i installed a weechat relay on a server | 00:01 |
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| photomattmills | am I the only one still using irssi? | 00:23 |
| ^alex | we use `circe` through znc | 00:25 |
| josch | photomattmills: nope | 00:25 |
| photomattmills | the modified pocket is really great to use, btw. bigger keyboard solves all my issues. | 00:30 |
| photomattmills | 'done' is probably a little strong of a word for something still held together with tape, but I'm typing this message on it | 00:31 |
| photomattmills | I like it enough that I might steal the RK3588 module out of my reform next when it comes and put it in this instead | 00:33 |
| - antti (QUIT: Ping timeout: 250 seconds) (~antti@user/antti) | 02:14 | |
| + antti- (~antti@user/antti) | 02:14 | |
| + emdevt_ (~emdevt@2001:7e8:faf6:f101:70f9:10a4:805e:9fe1) | 02:20 | |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 02:46 | |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 250 seconds) (~paperManu@198.16.179.107) | 03:24 | |
| elb | so ... what exactly drains so much power when the pocket reform is powered off? or is it just the battery chemistry or something? | 03:24 |
| - nsc (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~nicolas@97-99-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) | 03:49 | |
| + nsc (~nicolas@6-97-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) | 03:50 | |
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| + skipwich (~skipwich@user/skipwich) | 05:02 | |
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| + robin (~robin@user/terpri) | 09:08 | |
| + cow321 (~deflated8@user/meow/deflated8837) | 09:11 | |
| - robin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~robin@user/terpri) | 09:13 | |
| + robin (~robin@user/terpri) | 09:53 | |
| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a74:ce00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 09:59 | |
| + reform20465 (~rene@p200300d0ff03bc007fc2100dbdd09829.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 10:11 | |
| * reform20465 -> rwa_ | 10:11 | |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a74:ce00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 10:33 | |
| - rwa_ (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~rene@p200300d0ff03bc007fc2100dbdd09829.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 10:52 | |
| minute | elb: yet unknown | 11:13 |
| [tj] | sysctl and keyboard microcontrollers draw half a watt | 11:18 |
| minute | [tj]: makes sense, but we haven't isolated their power usage from the rest of the components, at least i haven't. | 11:25 |
| minute | i'm thinking to upgrade to rp2350a in the next batch/revision, which has real deep sleep modes (at least advertised, haven't tested them yet) | 11:25 |
| [tj] | on the sysctl I stripped down the firmware to stub out the i2c peripheral calls and measured consumption using a ppk2 | 11:26 |
| minute | [tj]: ok! do you still have the result around? | 11:28 |
| minute | [tj]: i also have a ppk on my desk, but not yet set up! | 11:29 |
| [tj] | I'm sure I have the firmware, I need to switch to the mac to see if I have screenshots | 11:29 |
| minute | hmm > Minimal achievable power consumption is 0.18mA | 11:29 |
| [tj] | I know I sent measurements to grimmware, but all I can find are memes | 11:29 |
| minute | haha @ memes | 11:29 |
| [tj] | there are issues with the firmware resuming which is where I stopped and then a lot of life occured | 11:29 |
| minute | half a watt means something is still very wrong | 11:30 |
| minute | if the 0.18mA figure is anywhere near correct, lets say 0.2mA, that's only 1.64 mW @ 8.2V | 11:30 |
| minute | even at 10mA it would only be 82mW | 11:31 |
| minute | jacqueline: btw btw :D | 11:33 |
| [tj] | no measurements, I did find a copy of "computer connections" and the "does microsoft understand consent" meme | 11:33 |
| [tj] | I am quite sure it was 250mA, but rather than speculate I'll find you firmware | 11:34 |
| [tj] | this will be quite an awkward bundle, I'm sorry | 11:34 |
| [tj] | minute: DO NOT RUN THIS ON A POCKET REFORM: https://adventurist.me/public/sysctl-stub.diff | 11:43 |
| [tj] | I am quite sure I reused one of the power channel ios for debugging and it uses the pi pico status led | 11:44 |
| [tj] | the head of this repo is 7af38f2 | 11:45 |
| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 250 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a74:ce00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 11:58 | |
| + hlep (~hlep@user/hlep) | 12:02 | |
| + AnimaInvicta (~AnimaInvi@88-120-179-216.subs.proxad.net) | 12:13 | |
| + timide (~timide@user/timide) | 12:13 | |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a74:ce00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 12:43 | |
| - AnimaInvicta (PART: !!unknown attribute: msg!!) (~AnimaInvi@88-120-179-216.subs.proxad.net) | 12:44 | |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@198.16.179.107) | 12:53 | |
| + AnimaInvicta (~AnimaInvi@88-120-179-216.subs.proxad.net) | 12:53 | |
| gsora | minute: my replacement screen finally came! do I need new double sided tape for the installation? | 12:55 |
| * Guest7684 -> mjw | 12:59 | |
| + gustav2872 (~gustav@c-78-82-53-97.bbcust.telenor.se) | 13:02 | |
| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a74:ce00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 13:13 | |
| minute | gsora: don't think so, maybe you can reuse what's there? | 13:24 |
| gsora | minute: ok, will try | 13:24 |
| gsora | thank you mnt for handling this issue btw | 13:24 |
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| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~aloo_shu@85.51.18.166) | 13:56 | |
| + aloo_shu (~aloo_shu@85.51.18.166) | 13:59 | |
| + jogu (~jogu@user/jogu) | 14:06 | |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~paperManu@198.16.179.107) | 14:14 | |
| + hlep (~hlep@user/hlep) | 14:43 | |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@modemcable141.205-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) | 14:45 | |
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| + paperManu (~paperManu@142.169.16.116) | 14:56 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~Thunderbi@h193.131.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) | 15:17 | |
| minute | hmm apt-listbugs is really frustrating sometimes, it stops working here when ipv6 is enabled | 15:19 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 15:20 | |
| minute | and if i interrupt it, it asks if i want to continue installation, i say "y" but it breaks anyway cc josch | 15:20 |
| minute | if i disable ipv6, it works | 15:21 |
| [tj] | I hit this too because there is v6 addressing, but my isp changed and there are no routes | 15:26 |
| [tj] | if I let it time out it lets me install | 15:26 |
| * antti- -> antti | 15:44 | |
| josch | minute: sorry, i have not encountered that problem yet -- i'd also have to look online for some solution | 15:48 |
| josch | TIL: setting connection to "shared" via network manager makes sharing your LTE connection via ethernet on the pocket trivially simple | 15:50 |
| josch | i'm typing this on an a311d classic reform connected to my pocket via ethernet | 15:51 |
| josch | the pocket is online via lte (in spain) | 15:51 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a74:ce00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 15:55 | |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~paperManu@142.169.16.116) | 16:03 | |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@modemcable141.205-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) | 16:05 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Quit: With every step we take, danger will follow closely) (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 16:10 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 16:11 | |
| minute | josch: oh wow | 16:12 |
| josch | for those disliking clicky gui, it's as simple as: nmcli connection add type ethernet ifname end0 ipv4.method shared con-name mylocalethernet | 16:14 |
| josch | it enabled dnsmasq on end0, sets net.ip4.ip_forward=1 in /sys and edits /etc/resolv.conf automatically | 16:15 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 16:15 | |
| josch | the classic reform can now use the pocket as a dns server :) | 16:15 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 16:15 | |
| - hlep (QUIT: Quit: zzz) (~hlep@user/hlep) | 16:19 | |
| minute | mhm, looks like we got some new rk3588 patch changes in debian https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/13146#L1999 | 16:20 |
| + emdevt_ (~emdevt@2001:7e8:faf6:f101:70f9:10a4:805e:9fe1) | 16:20 | |
| josch | indeed another rebase on 6.16.5 is in order -- i'm on it | 16:21 |
| josch | but "can be reverse-applied" is very good :) | 16:21 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 16:22 | |
| minute | josch: cool, thanks! | 16:23 |
| josch | now my poor lte connection just has to manage downloading 156 MB of linux source :D | 16:24 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 16:24 | |
| minute | nice, i just benchmarked a kingston 2TB 2242 format ssd in reform next d-4, getting 3.0GB/s read | 16:24 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Client Quit) (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 16:25 | |
| josch | o0 wow | 16:25 |
| + bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 16:25 | |
| minute | stackup choice, impedance calculations + rerouting was worth it | 16:27 |
| josch | i totally missed that the d-4 revision already arrived | 16:27 |
| josch | is the usb issue also fixed with it? | 16:27 |
| minute | josch: yes, at least on one port https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/115180159426631748 | 16:27 |
| * bkeys1 -> bkeys | 16:28 | |
| josch | ah i have to catch up on reading my fedi feed i see :D | 16:28 |
| minute | on the other not yet, but that might have other reasons / perhaps rcore stackup, looking into it | 16:28 |
| minute | the motherboard should be fine now in that regard | 16:28 |
| josch | i only now managed to get internet in the mountains (thank you, pocket!) | 16:28 |
| josch | *party popper emoji* | 16:28 |
| minute | noice | 16:28 |
| josch | that's a real relief, nice! | 16:28 |
| grimmware | I also had that same ipv6 apt-listbugs issue some time ago | 16:28 |
| josch | congratuations! | 16:28 |
| josch | photomattmills: just read your fedi post about your pocket mod -- sooo cool!! <3 | 16:41 |
| - skipwich (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~skipwich@user/skipwich) | 16:50 | |
| - L29Ah (PART: !!unknown attribute: msg!!) (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) | 16:50 | |
| + skipwich (~skipwich@user/skipwich) | 17:04 | |
| josch | minute: kernel is building now | 17:05 |
| josch | i had to ssh into a machine at home because tcp connections keep resetting here :( | 17:05 |
| [tj] | josch: what was the post? | 17:05 |
| josch | [tj]: context? | 17:06 |
| [tj] | "josch> photomattmills: just read your fedi post about your pocket mod -- sooo cool!! <3" | 17:07 |
| josch | [tj]: https://sfba.social/@photomattmills/115171515436840350 | 17:07 |
| + jjbliss (~jjbliss@2601:404:cb00:48e0:730:cb49:692d:8e3) | 17:08 | |
| [tj] | wow | 17:09 |
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| + L29Ah (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) | 17:31 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 17:45 | |
| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 17:48 | |
| gordon1 | is everything alright with my EC? https://0x0.st/KbMu.txt i reload the reform2-lpc module, sometimes it reads version as 0 (and works), and sometimes it reads 20250701 (which i guess is a version date?) and then it just reads garbage (voltage now jumps around between 0V and 40V, rest of the reading are wrong as well) | 17:58 |
| gordon1 | (i just wonder, i2s and spi live on the same dma controller, so maybe it is somehow responsible for pl330 lock-up?) | 18:01 |
| gordon1 | during boot it always read version as 0 | 18:10 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@h193.131.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) | 19:05 | |
| + BoostisBetter (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com) | 19:10 | |
| BoostisBetter | minute, I just got the Pocket RK3388 upgrade, but got the old wifi solution instead of the v2 board. Is it possible to buy just the v2 board, since I already have the rk3388? | 19:10 |
| BoostisBetter | Sorry RK3588 | 19:11 |
| Flax_ | /part | 19:12 |
| - Flax_ (PART: !!unknown attribute: msg!!) (d8f5445b71@2a03:6000:1812:100::1a1) | 19:12 | |
| BoostisBetter | minute: never mind, it looks like you can order the carrier board separately. I must have missed that. | 19:17 |
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| * mark_ -> mjw | 20:05 | |
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