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mhoye | hramrach: way, way back in the day, there was a CS prof somewhere who'd noticed that Gmail was still using only 512 bit keys for a mail server validation check, and he assumed that it was some sort of gotcha test by Google. | 04:25 |
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mhoye | So spend $400 on AWS, cracked the key and sent larry page a message from larry page. | 04:25 |
mhoye | 19 hours later gmail was using 2048 bit keys and he had a job offer. | 04:25 |
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josch | haha, nice anecdote :) | 08:29 |
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jahkosha | hramrach: thanks for sharing, that was a good read. at this point I guess that solving a well crafted CAPTCHA would be more expensive than computing this PoW. | 13:05 |
jahkosha | that being said it's becoming harder and harder to have good CAPTCHA :-/ | 13:05 |
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hramrach | captchas have their own problems. One is that the LLMs are fairly good at solving them by now. Other is that they significantly degrade site accessibility, even more than Anubis. | 13:58 |
hramrach | Like to the point that some people never get to the site at all. | 13:59 |
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minute | we have mcaptcha on support.mnt.re and i think it works fine so far? | 14:16 |
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elb | I think I'm going to try to remap my pocket reform keyboard today | 15:39 |
elb | My usual portable keyboard is a Preonic, so it has exactly the same grid as the Pocket Reform, but I've been using a layout that is _not_ the same as the Pocket Reform for years, and it's become somewhat problematic for me to switch back and forth | 15:39 |
gl0b | elb: i did some minor remapping on mine a little while ago, i keep meaning to do some more to get they layout a bit closer to what i use with mu desktop | 15:40 |
elb | I'm somewhat concerned about making things unbootable ;-) | 15:40 |
elb | and also long-term maintenance is a question, since I'll then be running a patched keyboard firmware | 15:40 |
gl0b | it's not too bad. you're just flashing the kb not the sysctl | 15:40 |
[tj] | and you can reflash it by opening the pocket | 15:41 |
elb | yeah I have screwdrivers and a serial cable and a USB-C cable at the ready | 15:41 |
gl0b | one tip if you haven't found it already. insert a delay into the flash command (sleep 5; ./flash.sh) then use that 5 seconds to put the kb into dfu mode | 15:42 |
jahkosha | elb: hey, an other preonic user here, I did not receive my reform pocket yet but I'm very interested into this... as I would love to replicate my qmk setup on it | 15:42 |
elb | jahkosha: I don't plan to run qmk, although the forums do have a port of qmk, I believe | 15:43 |
elb | gl0b: I suppose I don't even know how to put it in dfu mode, yet ;-) | 15:43 |
jahkosha | elb: last time I checked I did not found any port, so I was thinking re-implementing my layout using the native stuff | 15:43 |
elb | I assume if I take the keyboard cover off I'll figure that out | 15:43 |
elb | jahkosha: yeah, that's my plan | 15:43 |
elb | I don't use any of the fancypants stuff like tap-or-hold keys, so I really just need to move some things around | 15:44 |
gl0b | it's a keyboard combo that i can't remember off hand. hyper+enter to bring up the sysctl menu, then i think x? | 15:44 |
elb | I'm the rare Emacs user who puts control in the lower left and ESC to the left of A, for example, vi-user-style ;-) | 15:44 |
elb | gl0b: oh, that's easier than I expected, I assumed there'd be button pushing on a microswitch somewhere inside | 15:45 |
elb | but I haven't read the docs yet | 15:45 |
elb | anyway I'm going to do all of this at my usual coffee shop so not having to open things up is going to make life easier :-) | 15:45 |
gl0b | yeah, X. there is a thread about it here: https://community.mnt.re/t/trouble-flashing-keyboard-firmware/2535/7 | 15:47 |
elb | nice, yeah, I plan to troll the forums before I get too deep | 15:49 |
elb | although my ADHD sometimes takes over and I just Flash the Things and sort it out later ;-) | 15:49 |
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gl0b | that's generally my favoured approach too! | 15:53 |
elb | know thyself | 15:53 |
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jahkosha | I think I'll just use kmonad (https://github.com/kmonad/kmonad) at first, I'm using tap-or-hold and layers. | 16:01 |
jahkosha | the qmk port was done only for the reform keyboard, not the laptops | 16:01 |
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elb | ahh that | 16:29 |
elb | that's possible | 16:29 |
elb | (one of my problems: my usual preonic layout has ' where the pocket has enter!) | 16:29 |
jahkosha | ACTION look at his preonic | 16:32 |
jahkosha | I see, I had just a quick look at the firmware code earlier, and something like that should be pretty easy to achieve | 16:33 |
elb | yeah I looked at it before I got my reform and determined that I really only need to tweak some layout data structures and move keycaps around | 16:36 |
jahkosha | elb: best of luck! keep us posted please | 16:39 |
elb | will do! | 16:44 |
elb | installing deps/etc right now | 16:44 |
elb | my wifi is ... not fast on this thing | 16:45 |
elb | I might invest in a second and/or better antenna | 16:45 |
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wytch | elb: I noticed significant wifi performance increase when I swapped the backplate from copper to aluminum. I /think/ I have a repository on source.mnt.re with the files, if not there's definitely a thread somewhere on the forums with files that someone else made. That being said, it's still slow. I get maybe a handful of mbps, but that's better than the handful of kbps I was getting before | 18:17 |
wytch | the ethernet cable is deffo the way to go | 18:17 |
elb | I have the new backplate with the cleared areas | 18:19 |
elb | ok I wrote my new firmware, now to let it settle in | 18:19 |
elb | I'm hitting the wrong keys again :-( | 18:20 |
elb | I stressed-to-broke the stem on my backspace keycap, unfortunately | 18:20 |
elb | so if anyone knows what adhesive might actually stick, I'm listening | 18:20 |
wytch | Ah, right on, it's been a minute since I've been tracking this stuff, so that's news to me | 18:22 |
minute | elb: backspace on classic reform? | 18:29 |
minute | wytch: do you have the old pocket backplate, i.e. not https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-pocket-reform-back-plate?taxon_id=13 ? | 18:29 |
wytch | minute: I believe so, I also got a backplate that ya'll shipped me when I filed a support request for some more display cables, but I'm not sure if it's the new one or not. I'll check it out when I get home | 18:33 |
elb | minute: pocket reform | 18:37 |
elb | only one of the two stems and it didn't come off completely, so as long as I don't remove it AGAIN, I should be good for the mid term | 18:37 |
elb | https://social.sdf.org/@elb/114889457422320266 <-- keyboard shot/comparison to preonic | 18:38 |
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minute | wytch: if we shipped you a new backplate, i'm sure it's the new one (except some weird mistake happened) | 19:11 |
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minute | elb: nice @ preonic... now how do i fit cherry MXes (etc) in pocket reform... | 19:12 |
elb | I actually _really_ like the pocket reform keyboard | 19:14 |
elb | that was one of my trepidations when I ordered, and it does take some adjustment, but I haev the white switches and I'm very happy | 19:15 |
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elb | and I no longer hit n instead of b nearly as often as I did a few weeks ago ;-) | 19:15 |
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minute | elb: oh, nice to hear! | 19:37 |
elb | nice, I just tried my portable monitor for the first time and it works fine business | 19:50 |
gordon1 | yeah would be nice to get ortholinear version for classic as well :3 | 19:50 |
elb | it doesn't seem to draw power over hdmi, but I assume that's expected, I just gave it USB-C and it's happy with that | 19:51 |
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wytch | I ordered some of the new antennas for the pocket reform from mouser, happy to ship them to whomever needs them in the US for the cost of USPS shipping. | 20:15 |
elb | are those the ones that are currently shipping with pocket reform orders, with the short lead? | 20:17 |
wytch | that would be this one: https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/538-146153-9150 - 150mm lead | 20:18 |
elb | ok yeah, same one I have | 20:20 |
wytch | is there another part number for the short-lead antenna? I might include some on my next mouser order | 20:27 |
elb | I think that is the short lead | 20:28 |
elb | I guess I'd have to measure mine | 20:28 |
elb | but it's not long enough to go from the wifi card to the display cable side | 20:28 |
wytch | ah, ok, it's the one on the MNT reform shop, but I decided not to order from MNT because overseas shipping on such a small part seems to be a shame. I might eventually get some merch but it's not in the cards right now | 20:30 |
elb | yeah I'm just looking for a second antenna for my other port | 20:33 |
wytch | ah right on, you looking for one with a longer lead? | 20:36 |
wytch | mouser has a shipping facility in texas, so the shipping isn't quite as bad, even for small orders | 20:37 |
elb | yeah, I plan to get one that's long enough to route around the edge of the case and stick outside of the display cable region | 20:38 |
wytch | Looks like they carry ones with up to 300mm length, might be worth measuring before you order though | 20:41 |
elb | yeah, and I need to figure out what the capabilities/restrictions are on the wifi card | 20:42 |
wytch | restrictions like FCC stuff? Do you have the AisaRF card? | 20:43 |
elb | no, as in whatever it wants to be able to effectively use two patches | 20:45 |
wytch | ah fair enough | 20:45 |
elb | like do the feed lines or spacing need to be phased, what frequencies are on each connector, etc. | 20:45 |
wytch | I would imagine that stuff would be in the datasheet, but I don't really know enough about radios to be any use to you there | 20:46 |
elb | yeah I'm sure it can nbe found, I haven't looked yet | 20:47 |
elb | although the data sheet I did find said the chipset has bluetooth and I sure can't make that work, so I dunno | 20:48 |
wytch | Usually the second antenna slot on the wifi card is bluetooth iirc | 20:48 |
elb | bluez doesn't even see the card | 20:50 |
elb | I was assuming it can also do diversity tuning, maybe not | 20:50 |
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wytch | yeah, sounds like a potentially driver or firmware issue. | 21:14 |
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elb | yeah I just pulled the cover and I'm sure this is 150mm nominal | 22:56 |
elb | looks like it takes something like 225-250mm to get to the headset/switch board without crossing the display cable in any way | 22:59 |
josch | minute: these are the .mailmap entries I have so far. Is this what you want to see for your own commits? Is "Administrator <admin@example.com>" you? See https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/commits/4851cae80da8623305a5f89fd89f3ea749015e7e | 23:04 |
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minute | josch: sorry, i don't know what mailmap is | 23:33 |
minute | josch: administrator was probably me back when it was in gitea | 23:33 |
josch | minute: it allows to translate the name and email of a commit to something different for viewing commits with git log or git show | 23:34 |
minute | josch: no that makes no sense, it talks about gitlab there... so maybe before i made my own user account or so | 23:34 |
josch | for example, i changed my last name so i use a mailmap for my projects so that my old name shows up as my new name (without changing the commit data of the past) | 23:34 |
minute | josch: i'm pretty sure at least 2 people in that log there don't want to be with clear name in some new file | 23:35 |
minute | josch: at least not with those names | 23:35 |
josch | minute: can you be explicit (query?) | 23:35 |
minute | josch: yeah | 23:36 |
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