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| grimmware | I've been travelling with my GPD P2 Max and whilst it | 03:49 |
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| grimmware | ffs | 03:49 |
| grimmware | whilst it's a good little computer the keyboard sucks | 03:49 |
| grimmware | almost as much as the trackpad does | 03:49 |
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| + rodion_goritskov (~rodion_go@mail.goritskov.com) | 07:21 | |
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| chorc | grimmware: i was using clockworkpi uconsole while my Pocket was out, that's a keyboard that could be considered as cruel and unusual punishment :) | 09:28 |
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| [tj] | chorc: after the pocket chip I wouldn't touch a keyboard made that way | 09:43 |
| chorc | [tj]: picocalc is actually not that bad, I'm torturing my kids with those, they don't mind | 09:49 |
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| + kxtells (~kxtells@user/kxtells) | 10:19 | |
| grimmware | The pocketchip made my thumbs so sad. | 10:21 |
| cararemixed | My picocalc loves dropping key presses. The dome switches seem a bit hit or miss. Very slow to type but still very fun to hack on. | 10:22 |
| cararemixed | My alt ultra portable has been a legion go with the controllers taken off and the os swapped, 50% mechanical keyboard with custom firmware. | 10:24 |
| cararemixed | Very performant but no hinge to support it makes it hard to use without a stable table. So I can’t just use it on a bus or whatever. | 10:24 |
| cararemixed | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Vz6rLodl/IMG_6691.JPG | 10:27 |
| cararemixed | Still prefer the pocket for compactness as well as openness and repairability. The performance and battery issues are something I can work with. | 10:29 |
| cararemixed | I’ve also managed to crack the screen protector on this twice. Clamshells are just better. | 10:31 |
| cararemixed | Looking forward to repairing the pocket charging board so it can come with me more often. It gets the most questions by far around town as well. | 10:33 |
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| + AnimaInvicta (~AnimaInvi@88-120-179-216.subs.proxad.net) | 10:48 | |
| gl0b | those pocketchip/clockwork pi style devices are always very appealing until i think about actually having to type on one | 10:48 |
| - Ar|stote|is (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~linx@149.210.67.77) | 10:50 | |
| cararemixed | exactly. Useful if you have only short inputs like a meshtastic client or similar. | 10:52 |
| cararemixed | the mnt pocket is about as small as I can go and that's not near full speed but I can use it for a couple of hours without going insane. | 10:53 |
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| chorc | cararemixed: nice! and such a lovely keeb | 11:54 |
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| + amospalla (~jordi@user/amospalla) | 11:55 | |
| chorc | Pocket experience is just unbeatable for me, reminds me of using my old leica | 11:58 |
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| gl0b | yeah, it has become my primary around-the-house device | 12:16 |
| gl0b | i use it docked to my desktop setup quite often too | 12:16 |
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| + gustav25 (~gustav@c-78-82-54-137.bbcust.telenor.se) | 13:02 | |
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| + pomel0 (~pomel0@user/pomel0) | 13:13 | |
| + kxtells (~kxtells@user/kxtells) | 13:19 | |
| kxtells | Hi HI! I am looking here for more "inspiration" on what to look at since I am at a loss. I have a MNT Pocket that too often loses the connection to Keyboard. Keyboard is alive (can use it to drive the OLED menu), but Linux does not seem to see it anymore. I updated to latest firmware and double checked the wired connection (just in case) | 13:21 |
| kxtells | dmesg is full of "reset full-speed USB device number"... and after a while, it disconnects and reconnects with a new number. Until it just says "can't add hid device -32" | 13:22 |
| kxtells | just for reference: https://gist.github.com/kxtells/8fcaacd5b2a7213b0f5e9ef12e95aa14 | 13:22 |
| kxtells | any ideas on what to check/test are more than welcome :-D | 13:22 |
| minute | kxtells: i've seen this for some people but haven't a 100% sure idea of what the root cause is for this. some things that could be: | 13:39 |
| minute | kxtells: 1. is your uboot recent enough to have usb hub reset? is it imx8mplus or rk3588? | 13:40 |
| minute | kxtells: if you haven't done so recently: sudo apt update; sudo apt install reform-tools; sudo reform-flash-uboot emmc | 13:41 |
| minute | kxtells: 2. it could be a bad cable (intermittent connection). i've seen a few (quite rare though). tried reseating the keyboard cables on both ends? | 13:42 |
| minute | kxtells: 3. it could be a damaged rp2040. in that case, we'd need to replace the keyboard (we can refurb the old one) | 13:43 |
| ch | intel wifi seems to be a lot better | 13:43 |
| kxtells | yes, i reseated the keyboard cables just in case today, and after that I could still see the intermitent errors | 13:43 |
| kxtells | this is rk3588, I will perform the reform-flash-uboot emmc and see if there is any improvement. thanks minute | 13:44 |
| minute | ch: nice! sounds like you got a package | 13:45 |
| ch | yes! | 13:45 |
| ch | i'm not sure how to bend all the flex cables into place though, its a bit messy. maybe i'll let a professional have a look after christmas (: | 13:46 |
| minute | ch: hehe yeah there will be some professionals available | 13:56 |
| ch | nice | 14:00 |
| kxtells | Ok, reflashed and it restarted. I will leave it with a `dmesg -w` see if I see more of the "reset full-speed yadda yadda" | 14:01 |
| minute | kxtells: alright! | 14:16 |
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| - paperManu_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~paperManu@107.159.15.124) | 14:42 | |
| josch | ch: you coming to 39c3 i hear? :) | 14:46 |
| ch | yes | 14:47 |
| josch | ch: the solution for the flex cables it to install it into classic reform and not into the pocket :D | 14:47 |
| josch | ch: nice! :) | 14:47 |
| ch | haha | 14:47 |
| josch | my package was attempted to be delivered today | 14:47 |
| josch | but of course it's ups so it didn't happen :) | 14:48 |
| josch | at least they will not attempt again tomorrow but instead i can just pick it up | 14:48 |
| josch | i'm very hyped since i learned that of course you can put it into the classic too :D | 14:48 |
| josch | minute: is there a way to power motherboard 3.0 without batteries while at the same time having usb-c connected for serial output? Would i have to use the DC-input pins on the motherboard or is there a way to supply power via usb-c and at the same time read out the serial? | 14:49 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 14:54 | |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@modemcable141.205-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) | 15:01 | |
| minute | josch: you can use the dc in pins, or you have to splice in more than the usual 5v over the usb-c | 15:14 |
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| + cmahns (8fe824803c@user/cmahns) | 15:14 | |
| minute | josch: i.e. while cutting that power line to the host | 15:14 |
| josch | minute: "splice in" -- are there existing devices that do that and if yes, do you know how they are named? | 15:15 |
| minute | there are commercial adapters for this but they don't work somehow | 15:15 |
| josch | ah :) | 15:15 |
| josch | dc pins it is :) | 15:15 |
| minute | josch: easiest way yes :3 | 15:15 |
| josch | i like dc -- at least i understand that. With usb-c pd i'm lost :D | 15:16 |
| * Guest5028 -> mjw | 15:31 | |
| kxtells | Update! Pocket just disconnected the keyboard. Same situation, many `reset full speed usb....`, `New usb found... MNT input` more `reset full speed...` until it gets to the situation `can't add hid device: -32` `probe with usbhid failed with.. -32`. I will try to crimp a new cable, see if it improves the connection. It is the one on the right hinge | 15:36 |
| kxtells | right? | 15:36 |
| ch | josch: i take it you'll come too? | 16:04 |
| - kxtells (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~kxtells@user/kxtells) | 16:10 | |
| josch | yes, from the 28th to the 30th | 16:11 |
| cararemixed | Crossing my fingers for a ticket still. It'd be amazing to meet others this year. | 16:12 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a5f:900:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 16:15 | |
| josch | https://community.mnt.re/t/mnt-community-dinner-at-39c3-in-hamburg/4000 | 16:22 |
| gordon1 | sign me in | 16:23 |
| josch | gordon1: done :) | 16:23 |
| rick_ | Mhh i alrady have another dinner already planned on that evening sadly.. But is there a community meetup planed on congress? I would love to join :3 | 16:35 |
| elb | josch: I love that; no chance I'll be there given the distance between continents/life/etc., but it sounds like a rewarding and enjoyable time. :-) | 16:42 |
| josch | elb: <3 Another time maybe. :) | 17:04 |
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| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 18:41 | |
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| minute | finally chatting from my reform next again... | 18:52 |
| * tisiphone -> onepict | 19:00 | |
| + wielaard (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:32 | |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a5f:900:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 19:56 | |
| cararemixed | 🎉 | 20:09 |
| rwa_ | is it just me or is wireguard performance on a rk3588 with Intel ax210 just bad? | 20:38 |
| rwa_ | an android tablet in the same local network to the same remote gets 25 Mbit/s, the reform only manages like 150kbit/s | 20:39 |
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| + robin (~robin@user/terpri) | 21:47 | |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@107.159.15.124) | 22:09 | |
| + Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 22:14 | |
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| + paperManu_ (~paperManu@107.159.15.124) | 22:16 | |
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| + LainIwakura (~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura) | 23:22 | |
| josch | ch: are you planning to try to upload ezurio-qca-firmware again? | 23:23 |
| josch | (also, made it to the UPS pickup 5 minutes before they closed for the day, yay) | 23:23 |
| josch | minute: on https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-reform-bottom-plate it says "M2x6 countersunk screws not included!" but: a) there were countersunk screws included in my order and b) rubber feet were in my package as well even though they are not listed on the product page | 23:26 |
| josch | minute: i'm not complaining (:D) but maybe the product page should be corrected/updated accordingly | 23:27 |
| josch | the screws even have the nylon inserts -- nice! | 23:27 |
| minute | rwa_: sounds more like a bug somewhere | 23:44 |
| minute | rwa_: i've used mullvad and it wasn't slow | 23:44 |
| minute | btw i ordered aluminum reform desktop samples today | 23:45 |
| josch | woah it's happening \o/ | 23:46 |
| - jacqueline (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~jacquelin@user/jacqueline) | 23:53 | |
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