| minute | interesting https://www.phoronix.com/news/Steam-Runtime-November-2025 | 00:33 |
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| minute | elb: hm, we're currently working on pocket reform handbook updates, perhaps that can be fixed | 00:34 |
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| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a5f:900:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 01:11 | |
| minute | josch: haha, i made a bash mistake in reform-power-daemon | 01:12 |
| josch | just saw your forum post | 01:13 |
| minute | > Nov 21 00:51:28 pocki3000 reform-power-daemon[997]: /usr/libexec/reform-tools/reform-power-daemon: line 31: ((: "20251118" < 20251030 : arithmetic syntax error: operand expected (error token is ""20251118" < 20251030 ") | 01:13 |
| josch | the quickest fix is to just put the patch into reform-debian-packages | 01:13 |
| minute | luckily i changed that to not be fatal before release... | 01:13 |
| minute | i'll look at it tomorrow, but yeah, good idea, thanks. | 01:13 |
| minute | it's really not critical. just embarassing | 01:13 |
| minute | bash seems to be more typesafe than javascript! | 01:14 |
| josch | nah, it's software. Errors happen and we just fix them. :) | 01:14 |
| josch | minute: like this? https://paste.debian.net/hidden/0327012f/ | 01:17 |
| josch | i guess you meant to be using the [[ ]] bashism before? | 01:17 |
| minute | josch: perhaps! i am way less proficient in bash than you :D originally i thought i wanted integer comparison | 01:18 |
| josch | nono it's the other way round | 01:18 |
| josch | i never do bash | 01:18 |
| minute | lol | 01:18 |
| josch | that's why that patch replaces it with "[" aka "test" :) | 01:18 |
| minute | i thought the mistake was that i added "" | 01:18 |
| minute | so it's no longer integer | 01:18 |
| minute | but string vs integer, which fails | 01:19 |
| josch | hrm... i don't see the double quotes in this version... | 01:20 |
| josch | i'll just run this on the pocket now and see what happens | 01:20 |
| minute | josch: i mean i did something like "$var" instead of $var in the (( )) | 01:22 |
| josch | this is a bit easier now with my pocket connected via wifi \o/ | 01:22 |
| minute | https://tecadmin.net/double-parentheses-in-bash/ | 01:23 |
| josch | you did not put quotes in that line: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/blob/main/libexec/reform-tools/reform-power-daemon?ref_type=heads#L31 | 01:23 |
| minute | oh weird | 01:23 |
| josch | aha, see i don't know bash | 01:23 |
| josch | i had no idea about the double parens :) | 01:23 |
| minute | maybe i should have removed the dollars | 01:23 |
| josch | yes, looks like it | 01:23 |
| josch | similar to how in posix shell you use the $(( expr )) | 01:23 |
| minute | i kinda like the idea of double parens because it looks more like C, more readable | 01:24 |
| minute | the stuff that goes inside i mean | 01:24 |
| minute | but i didn't know that i need to coerce the type or sth | 01:24 |
| josch | another check could be added because sys_ver or kbd_ver could be empty if "reform-mcu-tool list --json | jq" fails | 01:26 |
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| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 01:28 | |
| josch | minute: i can confirm that it works without the dollar signs: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/38fe1d55/ | 01:28 |
| minute | interesting, but also weird because i can't reproduce this behavior in some simple tests i'm trying in the shell hm | 01:31 |
| josch | minute: the Makefile usually runs shellcheck over all scripts (and makes CI fail if shellcheck fails). If the Makefile had done so, it would've seen this problem: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/33c50481/ | 01:31 |
| josch | i'll fix this up now | 01:32 |
| minute | ah the problem is that the result from jq includes the quotes! | 01:32 |
| minute | because it's json | 01:32 |
| josch | aha! | 01:33 |
| minute | minute@pocki3000:~$ a=$(sudo reform-mcu-tool list --json | jq 'map(select(.device.name == "pocket-sysctl-1.0")) | .[] | .version') | 01:33 |
| minute | minute@pocki3000:~$ echo $a | 01:33 |
| josch | there is a jq option to not do that | 01:33 |
| minute | "20251118" | 01:33 |
| minute | minute@pocki3000:~$ echo $((a+1)) | 01:33 |
| josch | -r or --raw-output | 01:33 |
| minute | bash: "20251118": arithmetic syntax error: operand expected (error token is ""20251118"") | 01:33 |
| minute | minute@pocki3000:~$ echo $(($a+1)) | 01:33 |
| minute | bash: "20251118"+1: arithmetic syntax error: operand expected (error token is ""20251118"+1") | 01:33 |
| minute | josch: yep, -r for jq fixes it | 01:34 |
| josch | thank you, this means that i'm doing it wrong in reform-check as well | 01:34 |
| josch | fixing that too now | 01:34 |
| minute | cool. now gonna watch a bit of my tv show! | 01:34 |
| josch | and reform-emmc-bootstrap is also affected | 01:35 |
| josch | have fun! | 01:35 |
| minute | thanx! | 01:37 |
| josch | minute: why does it say ac_keyboard_backlight='xLBRT\x30' | 01:40 |
| josch | the \x30 is just a "0" | 01:40 |
| josch | oh | 01:41 |
| minute | josch: it's a uint8 | 01:41 |
| josch | never mind | 01:41 |
| josch | indeed | 01:41 |
| josch | it just "happens" to be zero :) | 01:41 |
| josch | shellcheck was unhappy but if i use %b instead of %s then it does the right thing: | 01:51 |
| josch | printf "%b" 'xLBRT\x30' | 01:51 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 01:54 | |
| josch | everything pushed and pipeline is running | 02:13 |
| josch | now lets cross our fingers that i didn't add more bugs XD | 02:13 |
| minute | josch: many thanks! | 02:16 |
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| josch | :) | 07:24 |
| josch | i now have the reform-system-image pipeline running to try out the result on a vanilla system image | 07:24 |
| josch | it *really* helps that i can try out these things myself wickedshell -- i was wrong and you were right :) | 07:25 |
| josch | minute: the bug is gone | 08:14 |
| josch | the remaining problem is, that reform-power-daemon is not yet enabled after installing the new reform-tools version | 08:14 |
| josch | that's a bug in the packaging | 08:14 |
| josch | should be fixed in the upload of reform-tools 1.82-2 | 08:23 |
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| rwa_ | oh, the backlight of one of my v3 standalone keyboards doesn't work anymore | 11:43 |
| rwa_ | :( | 11:43 |
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| rwa_ | removed the case, cleaned it a bit and now it's working again - phew :) | 12:12 |
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| minute | ailurux has ported all the theoretically required stuff for RK3588 DSI to barebox, doesn't yet work with their pocket disp v2, if anyone wants to play around: https://source.mnt.re/reform/mnt-reform-barebox/-/commits/ailurux%2Fpanel?ref_type=heads | 13:45 |
| minute | josch: thanks for fixing everything! | 13:45 |
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| ch | minute: did you see my messages from yesterday regarding CI settings? | 14:18 |
| minute | ch: thanks for the reminder, they didn't really register | 14:39 |
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| wickedshell | josch: Glad I could help! I know I am directly benefiting as well :) | 16:22 |
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| josch | :) | 16:23 |
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| cararemixed | pocketrocket lives! https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/dnKz4WJp/IMG_6988.JPG | 17:07 |
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| cararemixed | v2 charger in place. I will report any oddities but it was super easy to swap. | 17:08 |
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| minute | cararemixed: awesome to hear! | 17:23 |
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| josch | PAN_MESA_DEBUG=gl3 is so good! | 18:56 |
| josch | i'm currently playing gris from gog.com via wine and box64 on rk3588 | 18:57 |
| cararemixed | Love that game. | 18:58 |
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| josch | it's so good! 100% smooth no frame drops | 19:01 |
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| rick_ | awwwww thanks minute ! my pocket is alive again and everything works now. also the scroll key, it really seems like broken hardware. ill send it back to you as reqested ^^ | 21:00 |
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| chorc | I'm trying to use my BT headphones with new WiFi card on Pocket, and after about 30 minutes it crashes something inside kernel, requires reboot (see dmesg); anyone else seen this? https://paste.debian.net/1409803/ | 21:25 |
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| cwebber | <josch> PAN_MESA_DEBUG=gl3 what's this | 23:08 |
| cwebber | can I do blenders with it ;) | 23:09 |
| josch | haha no :) | 23:09 |
| josch | cwebber: it turns out that on rk3588, setting PAN_MESA_DEBUG=gl3 allows running games which did not work before | 23:10 |
| cwebber | neat | 23:11 |
| cwebber | I really think I want at least 16gb so I suspect I either want the rk3588 or the later edition Quasars. which means with the rk3588 it's very likely I'm going to want to be a test subject for the wacky eGPU setup | 23:11 |
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| josch | cwebber: the original thread where this magic env-var comes from: https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/115394946344904467 | 23:15 |
| cwebber | neat | 23:17 |
| cwebber | I haven't watched this yet but I did run into this | 23:17 |
| cwebber | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NmEhhU1h08 someoen running blender on a rk3588 | 23:18 |
| cwebber | minute: might be of interest | 23:18 |
| cwebber | looks like they've been planing with Godot on it also but it looks painful haha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np-MkHVaOnE | 23:21 |
| cwebber | *playing | 23:21 |
| minute | cwebber: ah yeah that blender video is kind of bogus. they could have skipped all that tinkering by doing LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 and have the same result, an unusably slow software rendered blender UI | 23:22 |
| minute | cwebber: check the cube rotation speed at https://youtu.be/7NmEhhU1h08?si=DJP6sm6X9y_cJMDI&t=776 | 23:22 |
| cwebber | oh | 23:23 |
| cwebber | wow | 23:23 |
| cwebber | yeah I'm uh, I'm gonna need a faster rotating cube | 23:23 |
| minute | godot should normally work fine, i'm not sure what they're doing there | 23:23 |
| minute | i think maybe not using the GPU at all again... | 23:23 |
| cwebber | yeah that would make sense with the like, 1fps | 23:24 |
| cwebber | for now, my gut sense is that I'm best off with the rk3588 32gb board and when you want to encourage someone else to try the eGPU setup, hit me up minute | 23:25 |
| cwebber | I'm motivated to give it a shot | 23:25 |
| minute | i think this'll be the ticket https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/38401 | 23:26 |
| josch | speaking about gpu: i got "against the storm" running without errors (and without having to apply quirks other than PAN_MESA_DEBUG=gl3) but it only "works" -- it is unplayabily slow but for some reason not because it maxes out on CPU (all cores nearly idle) but somehow still slow -- maybe gpu? | 23:26 |
| minute | the commits have great names like STUFF, MOAR and HACK, so i'm counting on that | 23:27 |
| minute | josch: needs instrumenting/profiling! | 23:27 |
| cwebber | minute: is this the GPU on the rk3588 direction you were mentioning? | 23:27 |
| minute | cwebber: this is more features for the rk3588's (and other malis) gpu | 23:28 |
| cwebber | awesome | 23:28 |
| minute | cwebber: the main missing feature for blender (need to check how critical one other is, but this one is the biggie) | 23:28 |
| josch | minute: probably not very useful as the answer would probably be: forget mali and add an external gpu like minute did :) | 23:28 |
| minute | the answer to what? | 23:29 |
| cwebber | here's something nice I will say: some of you may remember that I had to give up on using my system76 after three (three!) spicy pillows, and that led me to pulling my unused Reform Classic off the shelf. since then I've been slowly upgrading it bit by bit, since it was the crowdfunding version, and I switched to a banana pi, swapped out the trackball, got the new battery holders | 23:29 |
| josch | to getting it working | 23:29 |
| cwebber | the end result is I'm *very* happy with using the Reform | 23:29 |
| minute | oh i'm happy to hear that cwebber | 23:30 |
| cwebber | enough where, even though I got the banana pi as the temporary "cheap" CPU module | 23:30 |
| cwebber | I really think I do want to get the rk3588 board and upgrade the mobo | 23:30 |
| cwebber | even though the Reform Classic is not far away | 23:30 |
| josch | cwebber: i heard that if you want blender, maybe skip rk3588 and go quasar? | 23:30 |
| cwebber | because I'd like to have something that works for holiday travel and FOSDEM, and I'd like my classic itself to also be a good machine that's usable | 23:30 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@107.159.15.124) | 23:31 | |
| cwebber | yes I've thought that josch but it depends how long till the 12gb / 16gb comes out | 23:31 |
| cwebber | the thing is I can't switch my whole main computer over to the banana pi | 23:31 |
| cwebber | the 8gb quasar doesn't sound as feasible for me for main-computer'ing it | 23:31 |
| cwebber | I really think that as a guix user I probably need 16gb or 32gb since every now and then I end up compiling firefox or some nonsense | 23:33 |
| cwebber | maybe I'm overthinking it, since typically I don't end up doing a big ol guix upgrade during the middle of a trip, and I can probably wait till the reform next and save a bunch of $. dunno. still noodling on itt. | 23:36 |
| cwebber | but regardless | 23:36 |
| cwebber | it's amazing how upgradeable the reform classic has been | 23:36 |
| cwebber | cool to experience | 23:36 |
| minute | rick_: awesome, thank you btw! | 23:40 |
| minute | chorc: i also had BT "hc died" recently after not trying BT for a while, maybe a regression... need to look into it soon | 23:42 |
| josch | minute: the systemd service problem is fixed. The latest system image that got built now automatically has reform-powe-daemon started. | 23:45 |
| minute | josch: cool! | 23:46 |
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