2025-11-27.log

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minutestarted with low power stuff on rp2350 today. tricky.00:11
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chjosch: thank you01:08
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grimmwareminute: I was able to replicate brownout at 1% battery by launching firefox so I'll put in place the GPU limiting stuff :)10:07
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minutegrimmware: hah10:53
grimmwareminute: the rcore2 instructions don’t have anything about detaching and attaching the actual SoM from the carrier - any special tips before I break something?10:54
grimmwareAh never mind I used my brain :)10:57
[tj]careful now10:58
joschthe firefly is stuck to the rcore pretty tightly. I remove it by gently lifting each corner up by a little bit going from corner to corner in a circle.10:58
grimmwareYeah same10:58
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minuteah. i just rip it from a short side with like 2 fingers :D11:25
minute(don't try this at home, ofc it's better to be gentle)11:25
grimmwareShould the Intel WiFi work out of the box or is there some software configuration needed?11:28
grimmwareThe adapter is showing up under lspci so I assume the connection is fine11:29
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grimmwaredmesg tells me I have firmware missing?11:42
grimmwarehaving a go at updating firmware packages11:46
[tj]intel wifi needs a ton of firmware11:48
[tj]there is also a forbidden "yoyo" firmware which all I can learn about is "not everyone is allowed to play with the yoyo"11:48
grimmwareTHERE WE GO11:49
grimmware`sudo apt install firmware-iwlwifi` and then remove and re-insert the module11:49
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grimmwareaww yiss bluetooth audio12:05
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gl0bah yes, i hit the same snag with firmware and meant to post on the forum for the benefit of future generations. sadly i did not12:55
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grimmwareI've posted in the forum about it :)13:46
gl0bdid it come with antenna(e)?13:47
grimmwareyeah13:47
gl0bi didn't order the wifi module from MNT, so had to get some separately13:48
gl0bi hadn't realised i needed a slightly different ipex connector...13:49
grimmwarestory of my life13:52
gl0bi have an entire drawer full of rf adapters and somehow still never have the correct one for the job at hand13:59
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[tj]minute: re your fediverse thread on rp2340 power, I too thought moving to an rtos would help for power management15:01
[tj]it gives the ability to set up an idle thread and have the rtos schedule that15:01
minute[tj]: turns out nope, not implemented in zephyr. but they seem interested15:57
minute[tj]: idle is not good enough also. i need power mgmt15:57
minute[tj]: i.e. turning off as much as possible of the chip15:57
[tj]if the rtos has an idle thread mechanism, then it can do more than just wfe15:58
[tj]but it is 'free'15:58
minute[tj]: but as i just wrote, it's not implemented.15:58
minute(in zephyr for rp2350)15:58
[tj]whats the old line "a simple matter of programming"15:58
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kop316minute: two questions: if I may ask, if I were to order an mnt reform next on crowd supply, would it still get in the first batch? and based on https://community.mnt.re/t/restarts-without-warning/3927/49 , would you like my order number if you were thinking of expediting shipping?17:52
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minutekop316: ah yes @ order number. about next, i have frankly no idea yet how it will be batched exactly. i can tell you that black model, without camera kit, has chances to be shipped earlier.18:52
kop316minute order number #R429309808. And no worries! My 12" laptop is dying and I have been debating about whether to just stay only with a pocket reform or get the reform nedt.18:58
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grimmwarehas anyone else played with amospalla's keyboard LED tool for the pocket yet?21:07
grimmwareI had to tweak a couple of things to get it to work for me (possibly due to my window manager) but having the keys light up when you press them and trail your keypresses slightly is lovely21:08
grimmwareI'm gonna have to figure out a better place to hook in to the keypresses though, it should ideally sit just in front of the window manager because it's misfiring on space and backspace because of a firmware difference) and esc due to a libinput-based remapping tool21:19
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grimmwareoh no wait that's a problem of mapping the leds isn't it, my bad22:42
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amospallagrimmware: you can configure the mappings within mleds.toml configuration file: https://github.com/amospalla/reform/blob/main/mleds/etc/mleds.toml22:49
amospallaThe configuration key "keypresses_keyboard_layout" is a list of strings. It is an array of exactly 12 x 6 values, being each value a key led. The value of each one are the key events that will make this led bright.22:50
amospallaFor example, the first value on the array has the default value of "ESC GRAVE". That means, when the input device triggers either KEY_ESC or KEY_GRAVE, then the first key will illuminate.22:52
amospallaOh ok, you already found this I think.22:55
amospallaIf you don't want mleds to consume much battery, you can disable the background movie. It is event based, so when doing nothing it does not consume cpu. You can also modify the brightness globally with the "set_intensity" command.22:58
amospallaI have to put configuration keys to allow setting wait times between frames and the colors used, for the keypresses client.22:59
grimmwareI'd like to play around with using it for things like showing volume levels when you change them via the keyboard seeing as you can trigger off of those events22:59
amospallaIt is designed for things like these :)23:00
grimmwareI also like the idea of showing the return code in binary when a command you're running in the focused window exits23:02
amospallaThe "rectangle" primitive may be useful here. You can easily create a shell script, take a look at the sample clients folder, which contains a couple of shell scripts using it.23:03
amospallaOh, didn't think about that one either.23:04
grimmwarethat one's really cool cos you can do it along the number keys so it becomes easy for people to read23:05
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amospallaOne sample client shows two horizontal bars, with the cpu and memory usage just as a demo, but I would find useful, for example, just showing a true/false led appearing to indicate "cpu is above xx threshold", or memory. Better than having a bar all the time.23:09
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