| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a5f:900:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 00:04 | |
| espressocheese | can someone help me pls? I think I need a liveboot, just not sure where to get it | 00:11 |
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| vagrantc | espressocheese: maybe one of the images from https://reform.debian.net/ | 00:25 |
| espressocheese | ill try it, thanks | 00:27 |
| espressocheese | but I don't need to reimage the system, right? | 00:27 |
| espressocheese | also, I'd like to install Microsoft office eventually | 00:27 |
| vagrantc | there are at least two different live images (debian-live and grml) | 00:27 |
| vagrantc | no clue about ms office | 00:27 |
| espressocheese | I'll try the Debian live\ | 00:28 |
| espressocheese | just to fix the drive | 00:28 |
| vagrantc | any clue what you changed? | 00:28 |
| espressocheese | but idk how to do that, is there a guide? | 00:28 |
| espressocheese | I just uninstalled Libre office bc it wasnt working | 00:28 |
| espressocheese | then I had to reboot which booted me to initramfs | 00:29 |
| espressocheese | I was going to reinstall that | 00:29 |
| vagrantc | not sure if libreoffice is a dependency of the various mnt-reform-specific packages ... might have ended up accidentally uninstalling some other things if it is ... | 00:30 |
| espressocheese | oh | 00:30 |
| espressocheese | oops | 00:30 |
| espressocheese | should I just reformat the system? or is it recoverable? | 00:30 |
| vagrantc | i don't see it in reform-desktop-full ... | 00:32 |
| vagrantc | depends on what is wrong ... i'm just wildly guessing ... i haven't used the prepackaged stuff much | 00:32 |
| espressocheese | so how did you do your pocket? | 00:34 |
| espressocheese | I'm kinda tempted to restart on Arch or something, but idk if that's a good idea | 00:34 |
| vagrantc | i've got a mnt/reform2 laptop ... | 00:36 |
| espressocheese | oh nice | 00:36 |
| vagrantc | i maybe used debootstrap for the initial install ... dont quite remember | 00:36 |
| espressocheese | Is that the reform next? | 00:36 |
| vagrantc | no, it is the earlier one | 00:37 |
| espressocheese | oh | 00:37 |
| espressocheese | then why reform2? | 00:37 |
| vagrantc | because it's not the reform2 | 00:37 |
| vagrantc | er, not the original reform :) | 00:37 |
| vagrantc | i presume | 00:37 |
| espressocheese | oh | 00:37 |
| espressocheese | I thought for a second you worked at mnt and were testing the next, lol\ | 00:37 |
| vagrantc | i think the original was 32-bit arm? imx6 or something | 00:37 |
| espressocheese | oh | 00:38 |
| espressocheese | so the new one is 64 bit? nice | 00:38 |
| vagrantc | the vast majority are 64-bit ... only the early prototypes were 32-bit, as i understand | 00:39 |
| espressocheese | ill just give it a try :) | 00:46 |
| espressocheese | and install Arch | 00:46 |
| vagrantc | good luck! | 00:53 |
| vagrantc | ACTION waves | 00:53 |
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| + espressocheese (~espressoc@2601:8c1:c180:4630:7154:e07a:54b1:b266) | 01:11 | |
| espressocheese | im trying, but it doesnt seem to work | 01:11 |
| espressocheese | nothing seems to boot, hmm | 01:23 |
| espressocheese | is the rk3588 a arm v7 or v8? | 01:23 |
| espressocheese | It doesnt like the USB, I'll try an official image from mnt, do I use an sd card or usb? also, how do I image it? raspberry pi? | 01:26 |
| espressocheese | how do I choose the sdcard to boot? | 01:36 |
| espressocheese | Or how do I get a usb to boot? | 01:37 |
| josch | espressocheese: what was your platform again? | 01:39 |
| espressocheese | rk3588 | 01:41 |
| espressocheese | ive tried everything | 01:43 |
| espressocheese | it doesnt seem to work | 01:43 |
| josch | espressocheese: did you try flashing a vanilla image for your platform from MNT to an sd-card? | 01:43 |
| espressocheese | I think so | 01:44 |
| espressocheese | but idk if I did it right | 01:44 |
| espressocheese | how do I do that? | 01:44 |
| josch | what did you download and how did you flash it? | 01:44 |
| josch | the official system images are at https://mnt.re/system-image | 01:44 |
| espressocheese | https://reform.debian.net/live/ on the raspberry pi imager | 01:45 |
| josch | espressocheese: did you see the big yellow disclaimer on https://reform.debian.net/ that this is *not* an offcial resource by MNT? | 01:45 |
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| espressocheese | oh, oops | 01:46 |
| josch | and that this disclaimer had the links to the actual official images | 01:47 |
| espressocheese | oh | 01:47 |
| espressocheese | I must have missed that, thanks | 01:47 |
| josch | i think i have to put this disclaumer on every page | 01:47 |
| josch | this is happening too often... | 01:47 |
| espressocheese | lol | 01:47 |
| josch | it's lol for you it's embarrassing for me | 01:47 |
| espressocheese | why? | 01:47 |
| espressocheese | and how do I flash? raspberry pi imager? | 01:48 |
| josch | because it's making your day worse that apparently i'm not able to communicate to the reader of the website that this is *not* the official MNT images | 01:48 |
| josch | espressocheese: which operating system are you using? | 01:48 |
| espressocheese | the rk3588 | 01:49 |
| josch | no, which operating system are you using to flash the sd-card | 01:49 |
| espressocheese | Windows | 01:49 |
| josch | then i cannot help you, i'm sorry | 01:50 |
| espressocheese | oh | 01:50 |
| espressocheese | why? | 01:50 |
| josch | use whatever software can flash disk images | 01:50 |
| espressocheese | are you on Linux? | 01:50 |
| espressocheese | I can use Rufus too | 01:50 |
| espressocheese | or something | 01:50 |
| josch | last time i seriously used windows was with windows 98 | 01:50 |
| espressocheese | lol | 01:50 |
| espressocheese | I was barely 1 year old when that came out | 01:50 |
| josch | maybe somebody else in this channel has a recommendation of what to use for flashing disk images with windows | 01:51 |
| josch | but if raspberry pi sd-card images are also just plain images, then maybe that can work | 01:52 |
| espressocheese | ill try it :) | 01:52 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@98.19.131.193) | 01:55 | |
| espressocheese | I just plugged in the sdcard and booted, hopefully it will work | 01:55 |
| espressocheese | it already looks like its doing something | 01:57 |
| bkeys | So with mainline Fedora I'm not able to get anything out of the speakers, do I need to patch the kernel for them to work? | 01:59 |
| josch | bkeys: do you have reform-tools installed? ;) | 01:59 |
| bkeys | Not on here no, I assume reform-tools is a debian package | 02:00 |
| josch | bkeys: you are looking for reform-hw-setup | 02:00 |
| josch | and since recently ucm profiles | 02:00 |
| josch | (but not for classic yet) | 02:00 |
| espressocheese | will it install to my ssd? or only to sd card? | 02:01 |
| josch | bkeys: and there are alsam-mixer configs and an asound.state | 02:01 |
| josch | espressocheese: it will stay on sd-card unless you tell it otherwise | 02:01 |
| espressocheese | How do I copy it over to the mnt system so that I can free up the sd card? | 02:01 |
| josch | you can run this in a terminal: | 02:02 |
| josch | sudo reform-setup-encrypted-disk | 02:02 |
| espressocheese | oh, and it runs reform-migrate too | 02:04 |
| espressocheese | that's what migrates to the ssd | 02:05 |
| josch | yes | 02:05 |
| espressocheese | cool | 02:05 |
| bkeys | josch: I got the repo cloned, what do I do now? | 02:05 |
| josch | bkeys: package it for fedora :) | 02:05 |
| josch | bkeys: naively you can also just run "make install" but that will copy crap all over your system which is probably not what you want | 02:06 |
| espressocheese | so how does libre office run? bc it's already installed (just curious) | 02:06 |
| bkeys | I'm not opposed to it, but I have a list of similar things to do | 02:06 |
| josch | espressocheese: can you be more specific? What do you mean by "how does it run"? | 02:06 |
| espressocheese | as in I thought it was built for x64 | 02:07 |
| espressocheese | Or do they have an arm version? | 02:07 |
| espressocheese | I would (ultimately) like to do Microsoft word on the system (I have the windows download), but I tried it... that may have been part of the reason my last install broke | 02:08 |
| josch | Debian compiles and distributes libreoffice for over 10 different architectures | 02:08 |
| bkeys | plymouth/monobar.c:84:10: fatal error: ply-trigger.h: No such file or directory | 02:08 |
| espressocheese | Didn't realize it was owned by Debian, lol | 02:08 |
| josch | espressocheese: "owned"? | 02:08 |
| josch | bkeys: fedora probably has headers for plymouth? | 02:09 |
| espressocheese | oh | 02:09 |
| josch | espressocheese: it is not easy to run Windows programs on Linux | 02:09 |
| josch | (and many will not run at all) | 02:09 |
| bkeys | Alright it is built | 02:10 |
| espressocheese | ok... | 02:10 |
| bkeys | josch: Your scripts are magical | 02:10 |
| bkeys | It fixed the audio on Fedora flawlessly | 02:11 |
| josch | no way! | 02:11 |
| josch | bkeys: wow, congratulations! | 02:11 |
| josch | it is great to see how distros are not too different after all it seems :) | 02:12 |
| espressocheese | I got a failed to run | 02:12 |
| espressocheese | on the reform-setup-encrypted-disk | 02:13 |
| josch | espressocheese: can you copypaste what you got on your terminal to a pastebin and put the link here? | 02:13 |
| bkeys | josch: Yeah I gotta write everything up before the loongarch hardware arrives because after that I'll be sucked into loongarch work | 02:13 |
| josch | bkeys: well, that's also a nice hobby :) | 02:13 |
| bkeys | It would be great if Fedora was a first class citizen on the Reform | 02:13 |
| bkeys | I love all the alternative CPU architectures | 02:13 |
| josch | bkeys: join me -- i'm doing hurd these days | 02:14 |
| bkeys | Oh that is obscure | 02:14 |
| bkeys | I'm a connoseuier of all things obscure | 02:14 |
| josch | there are probably more reform users out there than hurd users | 02:14 |
| bkeys | Probably | 02:14 |
| josch | the reform is becoming too mainstream | 02:14 |
| josch | i need something harder | 02:14 |
| bkeys | I'm working on porting CentOS Stream to loongarch64 | 02:14 |
| + echeese_pocket (~echeese_p@2601:8c1:c180:4630::f900) | 02:15 | |
| bkeys | the MIPS heritage of loongarch is appealing, the Nintendo 64 is what got me into tech in the first place when I was a little child. The Nintendo 64 ran MIPS | 02:15 |
| echeese_pocket | https://pastebin.com/tGK0hPsw | 02:16 |
| josch | (i'm emulating gamecube via dolphin on rk3588 these days) | 02:16 |
| bkeys | You'll have to show me that sometime, I want to get retroarch on here so when I take a train somewhere I can use it to play video games as well as daily tasks | 02:17 |
| josch | bkeys: (un)fortunately there is nothing to show -- it just works | 02:18 |
| josch | echeese_pocket: wow, i've never seen this before | 02:18 |
| espressocheese | josch: I'm echeese_pocket (from my mnt reform pocket) | 02:18 |
| bkeys | That's good to hear | 02:18 |
| espressocheese | oops, just saw your message | 02:18 |
| josch | espressocheese: a file vanished and that should not happen | 02:18 |
| espressocheese | hmm | 02:18 |
| josch | espressocheese: can you paste me the output of dmesg? The easiest way is to put it into my pastebin by running this: | 02:19 |
| josch | sudo dmesg | curl -F 'arg=<-' https://mister-muffin.de/paste | 02:19 |
| josch | alternatively, you can also run "sudo dmesg" and then copy to a pastebin manually | 02:19 |
| josch | but it's a lot of output | 02:19 |
| echeese_pocket | https://mister-muffin.de/p/uRJx.txt | 02:20 |
| josch | thank you | 02:21 |
| josch | hrm... nothing out of the ordinary there | 02:22 |
| espressocheese | I did have the power problem recently if that's related | 02:23 |
| josch | what is "the power problem"? and how recent is "recently"? | 02:24 |
| espressocheese | where it forced me to open the device and bridge pins 2/3 on the battery | 02:25 |
| espressocheese | that was yesterday | 02:25 |
| josch | you bridge these pins if your charger board broke -- did that happen? | 02:26 |
| espressocheese | I think so | 02:27 |
| espressocheese | I was out of battery for a while and it wouldn't charge | 02:27 |
| espressocheese | like I didnt use the Reform for a while and it wouldn't charge until I bridged the pins | 02:27 |
| josch | espressocheese: i guess you figured out by going through the step-by-step instructions from https://support.mnt.re/? | 02:28 |
| espressocheese | yep | 02:30 |
| bkeys | I have been out of the game for a while, has a good competitor to vscode risen up yet? | 02:30 |
| josch | yes, it's called emacs ;) | 02:31 |
| bkeys | Good ol emacs | 02:32 |
| bkeys | I love emacs but I have never gotten it to be an effective IDE of any kind | 02:33 |
| josch | bkeys: i'm told that "kids these days" use helix | 02:34 |
| josch | (but all my students know nothing else than vscode) | 02:34 |
| bkeys | It looks terminal based? | 02:35 |
| bkeys | I am a bit of a hipster and don't mind alternatives but nothing I ever find has good cmake integration | 02:35 |
| josch | espressocheese: i'm still investigating your problem -- for now, could you try re-running the script? | 02:36 |
| espressocheese | I like vscode especially with its ssh integration | 02:36 |
| espressocheese | josch: it's working | 02:37 |
| espressocheese | it seems to have succeeded, ill reboot it later, thanks | 02:40 |
| josch | espressocheese: okay, then i'll be off to bed bye | 02:40 |
| espressocheese | good night, thanks! | 02:43 |
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| minute | josch: btw regarding ms office, the easiest way is probably waydroid ;) | 03:28 |
| echeese_pocket | ah | 03:30 |
| espressocheese | I have the exe, I was hoping to run the desktop version :) | 03:31 |
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| josch | minute: LS1028A boots now with RCW at 8 MiB + 0x1000 and u-boot at 1 MiB \o/ | 07:37 |
| josch | minute: thank you so much for your massive help yesterday -- i would've never even dared to attempt this without your mega helpful research! | 07:38 |
| josch | minute: also, i would like to have the gitlab CI runner enabled for https://source.mnt.re/josch/reform-imx8mp-uboot/ please, thank you! | 07:38 |
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| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 08:22 | |
| grimmware | \o/ | 09:41 |
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| jah | aloo_shu: thanks for the reference, that is good to know. clockwork seems to have a bunch of different model in this vain | 10:11 |
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| + erle_off_ice (~erle_off_@2a02:2455:8067:ea00:8e7a:97ab:f0dc:1c05) | 11:01 | |
| erle_off_ice | good morning. so after updating my reform using “sudo apt upgrade” i no longer have a battery indicator in the sway bar. anyone else has that problem … and possibly a solution? | 11:02 |
| josch | erle_off_ice: operating system? | 11:06 |
| erle_off_ice | josch ; cat /etc/debian_version | 11:11 |
| erle_off_ice | forky/sid | 11:11 |
| erle_off_ice | ; uname -a | 11:11 |
| erle_off_ice | Linux lego-reform2 6.17.9-mnt-reform-arm64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian 6.17.9-1+reform20251126T085426Z (2025-11-2 aarch64 GNU/Linux | 11:11 |
| erle_off_ice | (my reform2 is the one with the MNT logo made out of LEGO DOTS on the back of the lid) | 11:12 |
| erle_off_ice | oh wait, it's waybar | 11:15 |
| erle_off_ice | here is my $HOME/.config/waybar/config which very obviously specifies a battery indicator https://mister-muffin.de/p/VqQb.txt | 11:16 |
| josch | erle_off_ice: okay, then please run sudo reform-check and pastebin the output | 11:17 |
| erle_off_ice | one moment | 11:17 |
| erle_off_ice | https://mister-muffin.de/p/jBxq.txt aha! | 11:19 |
| erle_off_ice | > E: reform2_lpc is not loaded (battery status information will be missing) | 11:19 |
| erle_off_ice | ; sudo modprobe reform2_lpc | 11:19 |
| erle_off_ice | [sudo] password for erle: | 11:19 |
| erle_off_ice | modprobe: FATAL: Module reform2_lpc not found in directory /lib/modules/6.17.9-mnt-reform-arm64 | 11:19 |
| erle_off_ice | “apt-file search reform2_lpc.ko” yields nothing though | 11:21 |
| josch | erle_off_ice: yes it is not shipped by any package, it is a DKMS module which you get the sources for and then your machine builds it | 11:22 |
| erle_off_ice | could it be that it was installed and somehow got uninstalled? or that the original image had it and the upgrade not? | 11:23 |
| erle_off_ice | i guess i'll install reform2-lpc-dkms then | 11:23 |
| josch | erle_off_ice: you should have reform2-lpc-dkms installed or otherwise that would show up in your reform-check output | 11:24 |
| josch | erle_off_ice: the problem is this: E: the linux header package linux-headers-6.17.9-mnt-reform-arm64 for the currently running kernel is not installed | 11:24 |
| josch | erle_off_ice: do you have linux-headers-mnt-reform-arm64 installed? | 11:25 |
| erle_off_ice | okay, but when i do “sudo apt install reform2-lpc-dkms”, it does not install “linux-headers-mnt-reform-arm64”, is there a dep missing maybe? | 11:25 |
| erle_off_ice | no i do not have linux-headers-mnt-reform-arm64! | 11:25 |
| josch | erle_off_ice: ah your reform-check output is very outdated | 11:26 |
| erle_off_ice | josch i guess i can try “sudo apt install reform2-lpc-dkms linux-headers-mnt-reform-arm64” and reboot then? | 11:26 |
| josch | I: Version of reform-tools: 1.78-1+reform20250901T183925Z+1 | 11:26 |
| josch | a lot of information you would get with a more recent version is missing | 11:26 |
| josch | no | 11:27 |
| josch | please update your reform-tools | 11:27 |
| erle_off_ice | okay, one moment | 11:27 |
| josch | you cannot upgrade half your system and expect things to work | 11:27 |
| josch | adding a dependency on linux-headers-mnt-reform-arm64 would be wrong | 11:27 |
| erle_off_ice | i did “sudo apt update” followed by “sudo apt upgrade”, this *usually* works on debian ;) | 11:27 |
| erle_off_ice | maybe some packages were held back, i'll read the output | 11:27 |
| erle_off_ice | josch there is a lot of packages to upgrade, i think maybe some previous upgrade exited prematurely. | 11:30 |
| erle_off_ice | josch thank you for your help! | 11:30 |
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| minute | josch: uff, i'm relieved that ls1028a thing worked! | 11:48 |
| * Guest3960 -> mjw | 11:51 | |
| josch | minute: yes, soooo much! It would've sucked to drag technical baggage around going forward just for a "nice" SoM | 11:58 |
| josch | erle_off_ice: yes, it works "usually" but it does not work "always" | 11:58 |
| josch | erle_off_ice: when you use unstable then instead of "sudo apt upgrade" you should be running "sudo apt full-upgrade" | 11:59 |
| josch | and your problem might've been exactly what you said afterwards "packages were held back" that's why you want "apt full-upgrade" | 11:59 |
| josch | that and because kernel auto-removal only happens with the latter. Without auto-removal your /boot will slowly fill up with ancient versions | 12:00 |
| josch | minute: sorry i meant to say "niche" XD | 12:00 |
| josch | minute: this is what you have to press the merge button on: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-ls1028a-atf/-/merge_requests/1 | 12:01 |
| josch | afterwards i can prepare the merge requst for reform-ls1028a-uboot | 12:01 |
| erle_off_ice | josch thx for the advice … do you know if there is some kind of menu to boot an old kernel though? | 12:02 |
| erle_off_ice | just in case something goes wrong | 12:03 |
| erle_off_ice | i mean i can also try to navigate the uboot command line, but i somehow suspect it does not have neo2 layout | 12:03 |
| josch | erle_off_ice: yes, install u-boot-menu | 12:03 |
| erle_off_ice | thx | 12:03 |
| - erle_off_ice (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~erle_off_@2a02:2455:8067:ea00:8e7a:97ab:f0dc:1c05) | 12:04 | |
| + erle_off_ice (~erle_off_@2a02:2455:8067:ea00:8e7a:97ab:f0dc:1c05) | 12:04 | |
| erle_off_ice | wpa supplicant update = network loss for a few seconds | 12:04 |
| erle_off_ice | okay, rebooting. the asynchronous research covenant says: if i don't rejoin this chat, this didn't work :P | 12:08 |
| - erle_off_ice (QUIT: Client Quit) (~erle_off_@2a02:2455:8067:ea00:8e7a:97ab:f0dc:1c05) | 12:08 | |
| + erle_off_ice (~erle_off_@2a02:2455:8067:ea00:8e7a:97ab:f0dc:1c05) | 12:13 | |
| erle_off_ice | josch thanks, i have a battery indicator again! any idea why the symbol is something weird though? i guess i am missing some custom font here? (if you don't know and no one else has any ideas, i'll just change to some standard emoji) https://mister-muffin.de/p/Jn80.png | 12:16 |
| grimmware | If anyone wants it I threw together this little gpu frequency switcher for rk3588 | 12:31 |
| grimmware | > cat /sys/class/devfreq/fb000000.gpu/available_frequencies | tr ' ' "\n" | fzf | SUDO_ASKPASS=$(which zenity_password) sudo -A tee /sys/class/devfreq/fb000000.gpu/{min_freq,max_freq} | 12:31 |
| grimmware | oh that might only work in zsh, sorry | 12:31 |
| grimmware | oh I could remove the cat from that pipeline | 12:32 |
| bremner | meow! | 12:32 |
| erle_off_ice | anyone knows what i could do to minimize the power draw in standby mode? | 12:32 |
| grimmware | erle_off_ice: are you on a pocket reofrm? | 12:34 |
| erle_off_ice | nope | 12:34 |
| grimmware | I'll shut up then :) | 12:34 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@107.159.15.124) | 12:36 | |
| josch | erle_off_ice: in your ~/.config/waybar/config make sure that you have your battery plugin choose the font explicitly: | 12:43 |
| josch | "format": "BAT {capacity}% <span font='Font Awesome'>{icon}</span>" | 12:43 |
| erle_off_ice | thx | 12:48 |
| erle_off_ice | that worked! | 12:49 |
| erle_off_ice | see ya! | 12:52 |
| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 244 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a5f:900:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 12:52 | |
| - erle_off_ice (QUIT: Quit: erle_off_ice) (~erle_off_@2a02:2455:8067:ea00:8e7a:97ab:f0dc:1c05) | 12:52 | |
| minute | also that unfortunate wrong icon set we had for months ;__; | 12:59 |
| + gustav25 (~gustav@c-78-82-54-128.bbcust.telenor.se) | 13:02 | |
| grimmware | So I was doing a bunch of container work yesterday from my pocket, and it's absolutely wild that you can just install qemu-user and then do x-arch builds | 13:11 |
| grimmware | I've been building amd64 containers and just pushing them to my kube cluster | 13:12 |
| + wielaard (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 13:13 | |
| minute | grimmware: oh noice | 13:13 |
| minute | i wonder if that would work with fex or box64 too | 13:13 |
| grimmware | I mean as in like, with the dependencies installed you can literally do `podman build --platform=linux/amd64 .` and it will do it transparently for you | 13:15 |
| grimmware | I mean it's a bit weird suddenly having to considider multi-arch into the mix but ergonomically it feels a lot more like Plan 9's vision of "just use a different compiler" | 13:16 |
| - wielaard (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 13:19 | |
| josch | yup, same on a311d and imx8mq | 13:41 |
| josch | though it does apparently not (yet) work with quasar :( | 13:41 |
| josch | oh you are talking about amd64 | 13:42 |
| josch | never mind me then :D | 13:42 |
| + wielaard (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 13:42 | |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~paperManu@107.159.15.124) | 14:04 | |
| - wielaard (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 14:05 | |
| minute | josch: does podman need kvm? | 14:10 |
| josch | you only need kvm if you use qemu. podman uses linux user namespaces and not full-system emulation | 14:21 |
| minute | qemu to emulate a different arch shouldn't need kvm... | 14:22 |
| josch | correct | 14:22 |
| minute | ah yes you wrote that yourself sorry :D | 14:22 |
| josch | minute: if you are in the mood of merging things i have more for you :) | 14:22 |
| minute | yeah i just need to get going to the mnt hq :D but i can do some stuff from the phone and then later from there of course | 14:23 |
| josch | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-rk3588-uboot/-/merge_requests/15 https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-imx8mp-uboot/-/merge_requests/8 https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-a311d-uboot/-/merge_requests/6 https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-boundary-uboot/-/merge_requests/23 https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-ls1028a-uboot/-/merge_requests/5 | 14:24 |
| josch | that's just the 512 paddin gstuff | 14:25 |
| josch | i'll then test all of the build artifacts for all platforms once again and then ping you to slab a new tag everywhere :) | 14:25 |
| minute | many thanks! all set to merge | 14:26 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@modemcable141.205-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) | 14:38 | |
| josch | minute: https://source.mnt.re/josch/reform-imx8mp-uboot/-/jobs/16016 is still stuck -- did you add a CI runner? | 14:48 |
| minute | josch: maybe not, i'll try to check now | 14:51 |
| minute | josch: assigned now! | 14:54 |
| kop316 | Is there any known defects with the pocket reform screen? I woke up this morning to discover a black line on the display that looks to be hardware related. The laptop sat on my couch overnight, so I doubt any physical shock happened | 15:03 |
| josch | kop316: does the issue go away after a reboot? | 15:11 |
| josch | minute: since we are merging things, I think this is the last one that I'd like to get into the next round of tagged u-boot releases: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-boundary-uboot/-/merge_requests/22 | 15:16 |
| kop316 | josch no it does not. i turned it off and will turb it on in 30 min to see if that helps | 15:19 |
| + espressocheese (~espressoc@2601:8c1:c180:4630:88f9:1529:365e:62d) | 15:19 | |
| espressocheese | hi... im back onto initramfs... :( | 15:20 |
| espressocheese | I managed to start the system from the sd card | 15:27 |
| + erle_off_ice (~erle_off_@2a02:2455:8067:ea00:8e7a:97ab:f0dc:1c05) | 16:05 | |
| kop316 | josch: I just booted it, the dead pixels are still there.... | 16:13 |
| - erle_off_ice (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~erle_off_@2a02:2455:8067:ea00:8e7a:97ab:f0dc:1c05) | 16:24 | |
| + ericsfraga (~user@2a00:23cc:b475:7c01:ebe4:d0d3:6174:e84c) | 16:51 | |
| josch | minute: ^ | 16:51 |
| josch | espressocheese: okay, another theory: could you do two things: | 16:53 |
| espressocheese | I'm live booted on the sd card | 16:53 |
| josch | a) send us a photo of what it looks like when you get thrown into the initramfs -- maybe you are missing something | 16:53 |
| josch | b) when you are booted from sd-card and connected to the internet, run the following: | 16:54 |
| josch | sudo reform-update-uboot emmc | 16:54 |
| espressocheese | nope | 16:55 |
| espressocheese | I get command not found | 16:55 |
| espressocheese | when I'm supposedly booted from sd | 16:55 |
| espressocheese | hmm | 16:55 |
| josch | espressocheese: sorry, the command is | 16:56 |
| josch | sudo reform-flash-uboot emmc | 16:56 |
| espressocheese | ok that worked | 16:57 |
| espressocheese | now do I restart? | 16:57 |
| josch | espressocheese: what was the output of the command? | 16:57 |
| + echeese_pocket (~echeese_p@2601:8c1:c180:4630::f900) | 16:58 | |
| echeese_pocket | W: Flashing u-boot to eMMC on MNT Pocket Reform with RCORE RK3588 Module is not without risk. | 16:58 |
| echeese_pocket | W: If you flash the wrong u-boot or if the flashing process goes wrong, it is | 16:58 |
| echeese_pocket | W: possible to soft-brick your board. Restoring it might need some extra hardware. | 16:58 |
| echeese_pocket | W: Please only proceed if you are sure that the benefits outweigh the risks for you. | 16:58 |
| echeese_pocket | Are you sure you want to proceed? [y/N] y | 16:58 |
| echeese_pocket | I: Writing /boot/flash.bin to /dev/mmcblk0 | 16:58 |
| echeese_pocket | 18417+0 records in | 16:58 |
| echeese_pocket | 18417+0 records out | 16:58 |
| echeese_pocket | 9429504 bytes (9.4 MB, 9.0 MiB) copied, 0.365682 s, 25.8 MB/s' | 16:58 |
| josch | thank you | 16:58 |
| josch | okay, try rebooting without the sd-card | 16:58 |
| - echeese_pocket (QUIT: Client Quit) (~echeese_p@2601:8c1:c180:4630::f900) | 16:59 | |
| espressocheese | waiting for the system to shut down | 16:59 |
| espressocheese | im trying, just a sec | 17:00 |
| espressocheese | looks good :) | 17:01 |
| espressocheese | just hope that if I reboot it will work seemlessly :) | 17:01 |
| espressocheese | also, do pi apps work on the mnt reform? | 17:02 |
| espressocheese | I don't want to brick it again | 17:03 |
| - robin__ (QUIT: Write error: error:80000068:system library::Connection reset by peer) (~robin@user/terpri) | 17:03 | |
| josch | espressocheese: as somebody with intimate knowledge of debian, a quick review of what pi apps do gives me strong indications that those who maintain it do not know well enough how debian works | 17:03 |
| espressocheese | josch | 17:03 |
| + robin__ (~robin@user/terpri) | 17:03 | |
| espressocheese | oh | 17:03 |
| josch | espressocheese: see my comments here: https://community.mnt.re/t/dont-install-pi-apps/3935 | 17:03 |
| + Gooberpatrol_66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 17:04 | |
| espressocheese | That's helpful... | 17:04 |
| josch | sarcasm? | 17:05 |
| espressocheese | So how do I install thunderbird | 17:05 |
| espressocheese | No sarcasm! | 17:05 |
| josch | espressocheese: sudo apt install thunderbird | 17:05 |
| - Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 250 seconds) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 17:05 | |
| espressocheese | :) | 17:05 |
| espressocheese | it says thunderbird has no installation candidate | 17:06 |
| josch | espressocheese: did you run apt update at all? | 17:06 |
| espressocheese | no | 17:07 |
| josch | you first need to tell apt to download package indices | 17:07 |
| espressocheese | oh | 17:07 |
| espressocheese | oops | 17:07 |
| josch | without apt having downloaded those, it doesn't know what it could potentially install | 17:07 |
| espressocheese | yea, my bad | 17:07 |
| espressocheese | do I run apt modernize-sources or is that a bad idea? | 17:07 |
| espressocheese | it was recommended by the apt update | 17:08 |
| josch | either works | 17:08 |
| josch | it will not damage anything | 17:08 |
| espressocheese | the software gui is still not updated | 17:09 |
| minute | josch: > Merge blocked: 1 check failed | 17:48 |
| minute | kop316: photo? | 17:48 |
| minute | espressocheese: there was some warning about pi apps messing up the system, don't install it | 17:49 |
| minute | maybe it was on community.mnt.re | 17:49 |
| minute | espressocheese: yeah "GNOME Software" not updating at first is a bit frustrating, but after a while it will be | 17:49 |
| minute | espressocheese: i'm not yet sure why that is. but you can also at flathub as another source to gnome software. that is a better option if you need apps that are not in debian/apt | 17:50 |
| minute | (i use it myself) | 17:50 |
| minute | espressocheese: here are the instructions to add it https://flathub.org/en/setup/Debian | 17:50 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a5f:900:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 17:51 | |
| kop316 | minute: https://ibb.co/Q7zNvdLR | 17:53 |
| kop316 | (not sure if there's a better way to send a photo) | 17:54 |
| minute | kop316: omg | 17:54 |
| kop316 | minute: I'm assuming that' | 17:55 |
| minute | kop316: ok that display is broken ;/ i haven't seen something like that before | 17:55 |
| josch | minute: turns out i can press the merge button myself for the reform-boundary-uboot repo :D | 17:55 |
| kop316 | s your reaction to the deal pixels, not at my attempt at sending a photo | 17:55 |
| minute | kop316: i wonder how that happened... | 17:55 |
| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 244 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a5f:900:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 17:55 | |
| minute | kop316: looks like impact damage like some gravel was crushed in the device or sth :D | 17:56 |
| kop316 | minute: I don't know. The toddler of descruction was asleep when it happened, so it was just on my couch | 17:56 |
| josch | minute: fixed and set to auto-merge :) | 17:56 |
| minute | josch: great | 17:56 |
| minute | kop316: hard to determine if warranty case | 17:56 |
| - ericsfraga (QUIT: Quit: ERC 5.6.2-git (IRC client for GNU Emacs 31.0.50)) (~user@2a00:23cc:b475:7c01:ebe4:d0d3:6174:e84c) | 17:57 | |
| minute | kop316: how old ist the device? do you know if this is display v1 or v2? | 17:57 |
| espressocheese | minute: the flatpack didnt work | 17:57 |
| minute | espressocheese: has to work :D | 17:57 |
| minute | espressocheese: what did you do exactly? | 17:57 |
| espressocheese | I tried sudo apt install flatpack | 17:57 |
| minute | espressocheese: wrong spelling | 17:57 |
| kop316 | minute: up to you. I'm being honest when I am saying I didn't do anything to it. this is the backer model, so I assume v1 | 17:57 |
| espressocheese | ??? | 17:57 |
| minute | espressocheese: flatpak vs flatpack | 17:58 |
| ch | minute: i now got an intel be200.ngwg.nv (should be no-vpro) and it also doesnt show up in lspci. wondering now if thats an be200 problem or maybe sth on the rk pcie | 17:58 |
| minute | the official name is spelled wrong | 17:58 |
| minute | don't know why... | 17:58 |
| kop316 | I would ask if i order a new one and pay for it that the shipping is expedited | 17:58 |
| minute | ch: meh. if you want we can test that at 39c3 | 17:58 |
| minute | kop316: yes, we can do that. otherwise you can make a warranty request on support.mnt.re | 17:59 |
| minute | kop316: if you order + send me the order number i'll take care of expediting | 17:59 |
| espressocheese | oh, I was stupid, thanks | 17:59 |
| ch | yeah lets see at 39c3 | 18:00 |
| kop316 | minute: I submitted a warranty case. I get it if you deny it (hard to prove it wasn't my fault) | 18:04 |
| minute | kop316: no it's ok, thanks | 18:05 |
| espressocheese | I submitted ticket for my faulty power issue | 18:13 |
| ch | good i double checked the molex part numbers, so i now got a lot of antennas with the same connectors, but all wrong :D | 18:14 |
| swivel | what's the status on Reform Next? I've been busy with work/life and unable to pay attention to my hobbies, are these available for purchase/delivery yet? what's the SoC/RAM spec now? | 18:15 |
| espressocheese | I preordered a reform next, would it be possible to switch to clicky kb? | 18:16 |
| ch | bbl | 18:16 |
| minute | espressocheese: only after shipping. we (MNT) can't influence crowd supply orders | 18:33 |
| minute | swivel: did you check our news and the crowd supply page? | 18:33 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a5f:900:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 18:34 | |
| swivel | minute: nope | 18:37 |
| swivel | im an old timer, so my habits still prefer irc over http :P | 18:40 |
| josch | one could argue that you could get updates via smtp as well, no? :D | 18:41 |
| sigrid | uucp updates when | 18:42 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20) | 18:50 | |
| espressocheese | I checked the page, it doesnt have the option for clicky | 19:02 |
| espressocheese | for some reason | 19:02 |
| - espressocheese (QUIT: Ping timeout: 250 seconds) (~espressoc@2601:8c1:c180:4630:88f9:1529:365e:62d) | 19:08 | |
| + wielaard (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:17 | |
| - mjw (QUIT: Killed (tantalum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))) (~mjw@2001:1c06:2486:a800:a09a:fc1c:5a8:e74d) | 19:22 | |
| * wielaard -> mjw | 19:22 | |
| + Guest2303 (~mjw@2001:1c06:2486:a800:a09a:fc1c:5a8:e74d) | 19:23 | |
| grimmware | smtp was a mistake, we shoulda stuck with bang paths | 19:38 |
| grimmware | having to know the route to your recipient would cut down significantly on spam | 19:39 |
| + wielaard (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:40 | |
| bremner | bangchain, it's like blockchain, but it sounds dirty(er) | 19:41 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:43 | |
| Svp | i like xmpp it's comfy and ejabberd needs about the computational power of an abacus to work | 20:39 |
| * wielaard -> mjw | 21:09 | |
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| + MartiniMoe (~quassel@user/MartiniMoe) | 21:18 | |
| * robin__ -> robin | 21:22 | |
| minute | we do have an atom feed! | 21:38 |
| gordon1 | mastodon also has rss | 21:39 |
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