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| cwebber | jfred: oh interesting. | 14:01 |
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| cwebber | jfred: it hasn't caused problems I think mostly because it's just two batteries down there | 14:06 |
| cwebber | in terms of the part near the bottom lid | 14:06 |
| cwebber | s/lid/plate/ | 14:06 |
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| amospalla | cwebber: did sanding the plate work for you? | 15:12 |
| cwebber | didn't finish it yet | 15:14 |
| cwebber | hoping to tonight | 15:14 |
| cwebber | I'm going to try to finish the experiment | 15:15 |
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| amospalla | Hope it works. | 15:51 |
| * Guest4944 -> mjw | 16:07 | |
| + marty` (~user@172.59.99.202) | 16:27 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 16:37 | |
| + reform371 (~erle@2a02:2455:8067:ea00:8e7a:97ab:f0dc:1c05) | 16:59 | |
| * reform371 -> erle_off_ice | 17:00 | |
| erle_off_ice | seems my trackball doesn't work again | 17:00 |
| erle_off_ice | seems my trackball has stopped working again | 17:03 |
| erle_off_ice | i have installed webext-vimium-firefox … but until i get this fixed, can someone tell me which assistive tech works well on wayland? (please only state stuff you have used, i can use a search engine myself) | 17:05 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 17:08 | |
| amospalla | How does it not work, at all, or barely moves? In the second case, this happened to me, compressed air solved it. | 17:12 |
| erle_off_ice | it does not register as a usb device it seems | 17:12 |
| erle_off_ice | like, if i do lsusb, then it *should* show 03eb:2041 Atmel Corp. LUFA Mouse Demo Application | 17:13 |
| erle_off_ice | but it does not | 17:13 |
| erle_off_ice | amospalla you can try lsusb yourself, there should be a device for the trackball | 17:13 |
| erle_off_ice | i wonder if i can coax usbreset(1) into doing something useful here, because the trackball *does* flash at boot several times | 17:16 |
| erle_off_ice | it should be bus 001 device 006 i guess | 17:16 |
| amospalla | I don not have that bus/device on my pocket. | 17:16 |
| erle_off_ice | well usbreset tells me “no such device found” | 17:17 |
| amospalla | Only, system controller, and generic pocket reform input, but the later does not say keyboard, or mouse, only input. | 17:17 |
| amospalla | what do you see on /dev/input/by-id ? Do you see the *-mouse device? | 17:18 |
| amospalla | I have several, -event-jostick, -event-kbd, -event-mouse . | 17:18 |
| erle_off_ice | i see -event-if01 and -event-kbd | 17:19 |
| amospalla | Have you tried cutting power physically to reset your controllers? | 17:20 |
| erle_off_ice | is that the thing josch mentioned with pressing the reset button on the bottom or what would it entail? | 17:21 |
| erle_off_ice | usbreset will happily reset my keyboard btw, so it works | 17:21 |
| amospalla | I mean, the physical switch on the left side, you need something small to move it up/down. | 17:21 |
| erle_off_ice | let me check what is there one moment | 17:22 |
| amospalla | That cuts physically the power to the computer. Try cutting power for a few seconds and stt again. | 17:22 |
| amospalla | That has helped me in the past. | 17:22 |
| amospalla | At your pace. | 17:23 |
| erle_off_ice | there is a switch labeled SW7 above and HWB on the trackball controller board | 17:23 |
| erle_off_ice | it has two positions: 1 and ON | 17:24 |
| erle_off_ice | LMAO | 17:24 |
| erle_off_ice | it is set to 1. do you mean that one? | 17:24 |
| amospalla | It is the Standby Power Switch, you can get whan I mean on page 3 of the MNT Pocket Reform handbook pdf document. | 17:25 |
| erle_off_ice | oh thanks, i'll look | 17:25 |
| erle_off_ice | but wait, i don't have a pocket | 17:25 |
| amospalla | oh :/ my bad, I'm afraid I made you lose some time, sorry. | 17:26 |
| erle_off_ice | don't worry | 17:26 |
| erle_off_ice | i am very amused by a switch that has 1 and ON as options. reminds me of hyperrogue that uses ON and NO | 17:26 |
| erle_off_ice | hehe | 17:26 |
| erle_off_ice | i'll look in the handbook for my model | 17:27 |
| Zaba | 1 is not an option, it’s a pin number | 17:27 |
| erle_off_ice | oh i see | 17:27 |
| amospalla | If you install evtest `apt install evtest`, and inspect your input devices with it, press buttons, moving the ball..., does evtest recognize input events? | 17:29 |
| erle_off_ice | i'll try, but given there is no usb device recognized and i have no pointer on console and in wayland, i have a suspicion that the answer is “nope”. give me some time to test. | 17:30 |
| erle_off_ice | amospalla evtest asks me if i want to test /dev/input/event0 (which is the keyboard) or /dev/input/event1 (which is, again, the keyboard somehow) | 17:31 |
| amospalla | I don't know the classic reform, first I would try is ensuring that power has been cut of, and power on it again cleanly. | 17:31 |
| amospalla | then as you suspect, there is no logical device for the pointer. | 17:32 |
| erle_off_ice | yeah so it seems that the keyboard hyper mode (fn) is registered as a separate input | 17:32 |
| erle_off_ice | like, /dev/input/event1 is the part that does brightness control (hyper + f1 or hyper + f2) | 17:33 |
| erle_off_ice | whereas /dev/input/event0 is the base layers | 17:33 |
| erle_off_ice | that's a neat solution! | 17:34 |
| erle_off_ice | amospalla, i have rebooted it already several times today, because last time the issue just went away | 17:35 |
| erle_off_ice | i'll see if i can start the usb subsystem without rebooting | 17:35 |
| amospalla | I mean, not just rebooting the machine, but ensuring power is cut off. | 17:36 |
| amospalla | From the controller, yes, that's it. | 17:36 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 17:37 | |
| - marty` (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~user@172.59.99.202) | 17:37 | |
| erle_off_ice | i am actually really happy that i use sway, as i don't need the keyboard for that hehe | 17:37 |
| erle_off_ice | i mean the mouse, brainfart | 17:38 |
| erle_off_ice | so here is what i found: usbreset can not reset devices that do not show up. but uhubctl claims to be able to reset the power state. so i will reset the power state of the usb hub and see where that leads. | 17:42 |
| + aelius (~aelius@user/aelius) | 17:43 | |
| erle_off_ice | all it does is shuffle usb device numbers around. my keyboard is now usb device 037 instead of 003 | 17:47 |
| erle_off_ice | guess they are reallocated whenever the device is plugged in again | 17:48 |
| erle_off_ice | ha, it does help me though | 17:49 |
| + andreas-e (~Andreas@2a02-8434-b6a3-e901-facc-8e87-8e54-890d.rev.sfr.net) | 17:50 | |
| erle_off_ice | there is a device on the bus that does not actually accept its address and can not be enumerated! | 17:50 |
| erle_off_ice | error -71, usb device is being detected but does not give a valid response | 17:51 |
| erle_off_ice | https://mister-muffin.de/p/PViN.txt | 17:54 |
| erle_off_ice | that's the dmesg(1) output after i powercycle the hub using uhubctl | 17:55 |
| erle_off_ice | so the device on hub 1 port 4 is the mouse i guess | 17:56 |
| + libercv (~libercv@user/libercv) | 17:58 | |
| erle_off_ice | btw, if you want to powercycle your usb hubs, the command i used was “ | 18:01 |
| erle_off_ice | sudo uhubctl -l 1 -a cycle | 18:01 |
| erle_off_ice | ” | 18:01 |
| erle_off_ice | i will shut off and on again now | 18:02 |
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| + reform8600 (~erle@2a02:2455:8067:ea00:8e7a:97ab:f0dc:1c05) | 18:10 | |
| * reform8600 -> erle_off_ice | 18:10 | |
| erle_off_ice | yeah so turning it off and on again does not do much, but i admittedly have not actually taken out the batteries yet | 18:10 |
| + nybble (~sprang@user/csprng) | 18:15 | |
| erle_off_ice | minute do you think i should update the trackball firmware maybe? | 18:19 |
| erle_off_ice | (i'll read logs later if you don't reply immediately) | 18:19 |
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| erle_off_ice | ig i can't do this anyway if the device is not responsive (as i won't have /dev/hidraw2) | 18:22 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@172.56.71.36) | 18:42 | |
| minute | erle_off_ice: did you try reseating the cable of the trackball, incl the sensor cable? | 19:01 |
| minute | erle_off_ice: and which controller chip, atmega something or rp2040? | 19:01 |
| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a67:8b00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 19:11 | |
| + reform26261 (~erle@2a02:2455:8067:ea00:8e7a:97ab:f0dc:1c05) | 19:20 | |
| * reform26261 -> erle_off_ice | 19:20 | |
| erle_off_ice | okay, so here is what i did: i installed ydotool and made a bunch of keybindings in my sway config. now i have a virtual mouse! | 19:20 |
| erle_off_ice | this was surprisingly easy | 19:21 |
| minute | cool | 19:21 |
| erle_off_ice | yeah one moment i will pastebin it | 19:25 |
| erle_off_ice | https://mister-muffin.de/p/Q8Dd.txt check this virtual sway mouse out :3 | 19:29 |
| - wielaard (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:30 | |
| + wielaard (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:31 | |
| erle_off_ice | minute i did not try reseating the cable. idk what hardware revision it is, but it says 2020-09-08 at the bottom. | 19:32 |
| erle_off_ice | just so i understand it: “reseating the cable” means disconnecting and connecting? | 19:33 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@172.56.71.36) | 20:16 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@172.56.71.36) | 20:16 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@172.56.71.36) | 20:20 | |
| minute | erle_off_ice: yes. esp the little FPC cable | 20:25 |
| minute | erle_off_ice: check the explosion drawing here https://mntre.com/documentation/reform-handbook/hardware.html#trackball | 20:26 |
| minute | erle_off_ice: if the little sensor cable is a bit loose, it could prevent the trackball from starting correctly | 20:27 |
| minute | erle_off_ice: if you have 2020 revision, i think that's still atmega. that version shouldn't just get worse USB or sth | 20:27 |
| erle_off_ice | thanks. does the blinking at the startup mean anything? it blinks 3 times during startup. | 20:27 |
| minute | erle_off_ice: and try replugging the cable that goes from motherboard to trackball, on both sides | 20:28 |
| erle_off_ice | wdym “shouldn't just get worse USB”, like the USB connector should last? | 20:28 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@2607:fb90:3f2a:ca22:59fe:b54:c0f1:d852) | 20:28 | |
| erle_off_ice | i'll try that as soon as i can, thanks | 20:29 |
| minute | erle_off_ice: normally the LEDs should only blink once if i read my very old code correctly https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/blob/master/reform2-trackball-fw/Mouse.c?ref_type=heads#L186 | 20:30 |
| erle_off_ice | let me check something, i have a theory | 20:30 |
| minute | erle_off_ice: the controller chip shouldn't deteriorate | 20:30 |
| minute | erle_off_ice: as it's a pretty battle tested 8 bit mcu | 20:30 |
| mhoye | Anyone added LORA support to their reform? | 20:31 |
| erle_off_ice | okay, so linux tries twice to get the device to work. but uboot complains once about a device not accepting an address. that makes 3? i am spitballing here. | 20:32 |
| gordon1 | mhoye: i'm thinking about it, but i need to sort out side covers first | 20:32 |
| erle_off_ice | mhoye if you have a WHY badge you can use meshtastic on it https://wiki.why2025.org/Project:Meshtastic_on_the_WHY2025_badge | 20:34 |
| gordon1 | mhoye: it's a bit unfortunate that all the chips pretty much exclusively are spi, so lpc needs to have SPI multiplexing feature (and i am kinda wary or adding extra stuff to handle for a chip that does battery) or with case with extra controller - either usb of which there is no internal ports left, so means you need to add a hub inside or translate it from spi to i2c which needs support on | 20:36 |
| gordon1 | meshtastic side (i assume you want meshtastic, don't you?) | 20:36 |
| erle_off_ice | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1121993 f3d crashes for me on MNT reform 2. if anyone has similar problems, i'd be curious, because most other apps work at least if i lie and say i have opengl 3.2 | 20:38 |
| erle_off_ice | gordon how do you have no internal ports left, like aren't there TWO 4-port hubs in the reform? | 20:39 |
| minute | there is one 4-port hub | 20:39 |
| minute | (it's both a usb3 and usb2 hub) | 20:39 |
| minute | (so linux sees that as 2 hubs) | 20:39 |
| erle_off_ice | oopsie good to know | 20:40 |
| minute | all of this is documented since a long time btw :D | 20:40 |
| erle_off_ice | i am the standard forum user, post before thinking it seems | 20:40 |
| minute | and if you ignore my advice about fixing the trackball idk how to help you | 20:41 |
| minute | you can buy a new trackball maybe | 20:41 |
| erle_off_ice | i will not ignore it, i am simply not close to a screwdriver right now | 20:41 |
| minute | at some point i need to make a screwless reform i guess | 20:41 |
| minute | that's only held together by magnets | 20:41 |
| minute | that's the one thing i envy framework a bit about, that they did a lot of stuff without needing screws | 20:42 |
| erle_off_ice | rubik's cube reform where you have to rotate a few elements in a specific way so it opens | 20:42 |
| minute | sounds nice | 20:42 |
| erle_off_ice | picatinny rail on reform so you can add a tactical flashlight when? :D | 20:44 |
| minute | lol i needed to look that up, i thought that's a funny name for the flash mount on cameras but no | 20:45 |
| gordon1 | >screwless reform | 20:46 |
| gordon1 | where would i replace all the screws with torx then? | 20:46 |
| minute | gordon1: can't have everything i guess | 20:46 |
| gordon1 | can a device with not a single screw be pronounce torx-converted on purchase? | 20:47 |
| erle_off_ice | hear me out: as the owner of the reform with the lego logo on the back … aluminium lego-compatible stubs! | 20:48 |
| minute | how is the lego technic clone OSHW situation anyway? | 20:49 |
| minute | i recently remembered that i had a lego technic "compute" or sth interface for the c64 | 20:49 |
| minute | could use basic to rotate a robot arm | 20:49 |
| minute | noo | 20:50 |
| minute | that was fischer technik, sorry | 20:50 |
| erle_off_ice | i went to a lego exhibition some time ago and it turned out that there are actually a bunch of third-party lego remote control solutions | 20:50 |
| erle_off_ice | but that's mostly software and i guess at least one module that supplies power | 20:51 |
| erle_off_ice | just so that no one takes me seriously: i have extreme doubts about lego-style interlocking bricks working if the parts aren't plastic, they need to be flexible | 20:52 |
| erle_off_ice | bricktronics shield is OSHW btw | 20:53 |
| mhoye | gordon1: I'm genuinely considering getting a new mnt lower case milled that's maybe 15mm taller. | 20:53 |
| erle_off_ice | ttps://www.wayneandlayne.com/projects/bricktronics-shield/ you can use that to connect lego sensors and motors to an arduino | 20:54 |
| erle_off_ice | NXT compatible sockets | 20:55 |
| gordon1 | mhoye: i don't think there is lack of space for lora inside the classic reform case, if we're talking about classic reform not pocket ofc | 20:56 |
| erle_off_ice | btw, NXT plugs can be made from RJ-12 plugs: https://www.philohome.com/nxtplug/nxtplug.htm | 20:58 |
| erle_off_ice | unfortunately, i own RCX and the cables just fall apart after years … technically, it's only the isolation, but before the NXT lego cables were not lasting as long as even the technic motors | 21:00 |
| vagrantc | are there any readily available 3.3v pins on the mnt/reform motherboard? | 21:04 |
| minute | yes | 21:04 |
| minute | on the expansion header ("hack the planet") and if you have a 3.0, on the i2c port | 21:04 |
| erle_off_ice | minute i saw a lego robot solve a rubik's cube at steinewahn 2025, next one is in september 2026 though: https://www.steinewahn.de | 21:04 |
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| erle_off_ice | like if you want lego technic OSHW people, they might be there ig | 21:05 |
| erle_off_ice | btw, the non-joking suggestion for an interface to connect lego is actually the lego technic holes in which you can put the pins (but they *are* holes, so idk if anyone wants that in their hardware) | 21:11 |
| erle_off_ice | btw, the base plate that i put on my MNT reform 2 is from set 41954. it has not come off in years: https://brickset.com/article/77418/quick-look-41954-adhesive-patch | 21:17 |
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