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| cwebber | I do have a charger board v2 josch ! | 00:19 |
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| cwebber | josch: ah! ok I will try the trixie-backports thing :) | 00:19 |
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| elb | so what's the scoop on this udev that keeps tellign me not to update because some user's custom kernel wouldn't boot | 03:55 |
| elb | are people running it without issue? | 03:55 |
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| josch | elb: what's "this udev"? | 07:14 |
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| ch | we don't do scoops, we're not a news magazine? | 10:56 |
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| minute | elb: you have some logs? | 12:37 |
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| minute | josch: we want the caps->texture_transfer_modes = PIPE_TEXTURE_TRANSFER_BLIT; after all in mesa i think... i'll try to check why/if they don't wanna upstream it | 16:04 |
| elb | josch, minute: every time I've updated for many weeks, apt-listbugs reports that the available udev has a blocking bug and asks if I want to pin it | 16:06 |
| elb | it sounds like you must have overridden, if you're not seeing that? | 16:06 |
| minute | elb: ah weird. i've disabled apt-listbugs because it was too slow for impatient me | 16:06 |
| elb | what I'm hearing is it's safe to update ;-) | 16:07 |
| ch | i've now downgraded debian bug #1121209 | 16:08 |
| minute | just realized i was still using mostly gnome 48, now upgrading | 16:11 |
| minute | system is more snappy with PIPE_TEXTURE_TRANSFER_BLIT | 16:11 |
| minute | finally emacs is usable again fullscreen... | 16:19 |
| elb | fullscreen emacs on the pocket is great | 16:21 |
| elb | sway fullscreen behavior is not | 16:22 |
| elb | in general, sway ... tries | 16:22 |
| minute | elb: ah maybe the issue doesn't happen either on sway or on the internal display | 16:22 |
| minute | (the texture conversion issues i'm facing) | 16:22 |
| minute | (yeah i think sway doesn't have this issue as it still supports GLES2 / is built for GLES2) | 16:23 |
| minute | IIRC gnome/mutter removed the gles2 renderer and so we have non optimal textures now for gtk3 | 16:24 |
| minute | (gtk4 is fine tho) | 16:24 |
| elb | I feel like a desktop environment should be able to live with the ES restrictions, but tha'ts not my wheelhouse, so | 16:25 |
| elb | now updates without complaint :-) | 16:25 |
| minute | yeah there was a big discussion about this, rmader who is working on gnome (and firefox) himself took a stance of supporting gles2 but there wasn't a majority for it | 16:26 |
| elb | hmmm I somehow broke my erc prompt | 16:26 |
| elb | ch: and it now updates without complaint :-) | 16:26 |
| elb | thank you | 16:26 |
| elb | minute: I mean, this gets into politics, but that has been one of my gripes for GNOME for a long time, I'm not sure exactly who they're trying to serve, and I'm not sure they know, either | 16:27 |
| minute | elb: btw chance question: do you know if there's a good code navigation mode for emacs that's basically like a symbol tree for LSP or treesitter? i.e. where i could always see all functions of a file (or even integrated in a file tree). | 16:27 |
| minute | elb: hmm i don't think there is a consensus about it, just lets say movements and individuals putting in this work or that work | 16:28 |
| elb | uh I don't use such a thing that's awlways on, but I'm sure I've seen one in screen shots on r/emacs or whatever; imenu will give it to you on demand | 16:28 |
| minute | elb: in general i think the main focus is still on intel/amd pc desktops/laptops | 16:28 |
| minute | elb: alright @ imenu | 16:28 |
| elb | treemacs might know how to do this with lsp | 16:29 |
| elb | I'm jealous of my screen space so I don't leave navigation elements visible :-) | 16:29 |
| minute | right, this looks somewhat like sth i'd want https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/1c216kr/experimenting_with_tree_sitter_and_imenulist/ | 16:29 |
| elb | I'm a (scroll-bar-mode -1) kind of guy | 16:30 |
| minute | elb: yeah totally, on demand is also fine. it could stay open on big screens where i got the space | 16:30 |
| elb | you can configure which elements appear in imenu, too, it treats the document as an outline and shows a configurable set of outline levels; LSP makes all top-level symbosl headings or whatever | 16:30 |
| elb | I use it unreliably | 16:31 |
| elb | M-. and M-, are my navigation tools of choice ;-) | 16:31 |
| minute | ohhh | 16:33 |
| minute | ah those are for ctags (?) | 16:33 |
| elb | they work with lsp | 16:34 |
| elb | M-. takes you to the place that the symbol under cursor is defined, and M-, pops the stack of such navigation movements | 16:35 |
| elb | so you can M-. to see where this came from, then M-, to get back, or drill a few down and pop back out | 16:35 |
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| voltaire28_ | Is there a Bluetooth mouse that works with the MNT Pocket Reform? | 17:15 |
| f_ | btw, the forum link in https://mnt.re/media/reform_md/2024-09-09-introducing-mnt-reform-next.html is broken (goes to https://mnt.re/media/reform_md/community.mntre.com) | 17:32 |
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| elb | voltaire28_: with the default wi-fi card, I don't have bluetooth at all | 17:39 |
| minute | elb: ok, cool, will have to test that | 17:44 |
| minute | imenu indeed did what i was looking for, in flat mode | 17:45 |
| minute | also i setup vertico and marginalia now | 17:45 |
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| elb | yeah I've switched to vertico (I used ivy for a long time) recently for various reasons, I like it a lot | 18:25 |
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