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minutejosch: is there a blocker to release reform-tools with pcie_aspm=off workaround, can i help with that?15:19
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minutein the meantime i copied your instructions into a guide post to point people to https://community.mnt.re/t/tech-note-pcie-ssd-wifi-stability-fix-workaround-for-kernel-6-18/423515:28
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wakest666I ran apt upgrade on my rk3588 Pocket and GDM3 is very broken... I was able to get to a tty and switch to greetd and then start sway, but seems a fix for this situation should be prioritised15:58
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joschminute: no blocker. I built this system image yesterday which includes reform-tools from git main to run pre-release tests: https://source.mnt.re/josch/reform-system-image/-/jobs/1887016:05
joschwakest666: do you have the same problem with a vanilla system image?16:05
wakest666the system I was upgrading from had almost nothing changed by me, only installed a handful of flatpacks16:11
joschwakest666: do you have some logs from journalctl?16:13
wakest666this was reported in november of last year, and describes the same effect after I upgraded and restarted https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=112060916:15
joschwakest666: the same symptoms also occurred a few weeks ago and were due to mozjs_140: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=112592716:18
joschyou have to look at the log because the symptom itself (blinking cursor instead of gdm) can have a large number of reasons16:18
josch(including: javascript doesn't work)16:18
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wakest666looking at the logs the most recent logs shows exactly the same as that but says mozjs_128 16:33
wakest666but this is after logging in to sway I guess and then opening Files, so I guess we would need an older log16:34
joschwakest666: can you show me logs? Your system has all packages upgraded to their latest version, yes? I'm trying to reproduce the issue on rk3588 here.16:41
wakest666yeah one sec16:41
wakest666https://cloud.disroot.org/s/drbcsmagidsjsFR16:47
joschwakest666: you have in your log "undefined symbol: __aarch64_ldadd4_acq_rel, version mozjs_128"16:52
joschwakest666: how are you upgrading your system? Using "sudo apt upgrade"?16:53
wakest666yep16:53
joschwakest666: could you run this command for me and send me the output:16:54
joschdpkg-query --showformat '${binary:Package} ${Version}\n' --show 'libmozjs*'16:54
joschwakest666: you should *not* upgrade a Debian unstable system with "sudo apt upgrade". Using "sudo apt upgrade" is what you do on a Debian *stable* system. On Debian unstable, you should be using "sudo apt full-upgrade". If you just use "sudo apt upgrade", apt will be very conservative and try to change as little as possible (which is what it should do on Debian stable). But in unstable, you want to use 16:56
joschfull-upgrade to make sure that old cruft is removed and give apt more liberties when changing packages.16:56
joschI'm asking because "mozjs_128" looks like you have a very old version of libmozjs installed and that would also explain why I cannot reproduce it with a current system image.16:56
wakest666cool to hear that is probably the issue! looking at the reform handbook again to make sure I wasn't dreaming "You can either update individual packages or everything at once with one command: sudo apt upgrade."17:00
wakest666so we should probably fix that in the handbook17:00
joschwakest666: indeed it says that in software.rst17:00
joschwakest666: another problem with just using "sudo apt upgrade" is that this will not auto-remove old kernels and then /boot will fill up over time and at some point the user has to manually clean up old kernel packages17:04
josch(which they are not told about, the error will just say: ENOSPACE on /boot)17:05
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wakest666libmozjs-128-0:arm64 128.14.0-1+b1 is what I get from your command btw17:06
joschwakest666: current is mozjs14017:07
joschwakest666: try running "sudo apt full-upgrade" and it should be installing libmozjs-140-017:09
wakest666error autoremover broke stuff17:09
joschwakest666: do you have more context?17:10
wakest666```Hmm, seems like the AutoRemover destroyed something which really17:12
wakest666shouldn't happen. Please file a bug report against apt.17:12
wakest666The following information may help to resolve the situation:17:12
wakest666Unsatisfied dependencies:17:12
wakest666 reform-qcacld2-6.15.4-mnt-reform-arm64 : Depends: linux-image-6.15.4-mnt-reform-arm64 but it is not going to be installed17:12
wakest666Error: Internal Error, AutoRemover broke stuff17:12
joschyes... that's the reform-qcacld2 hack...17:12
joschwakest666: you are on rk3588 and reform-check will advice you to remove the qcacld stuff because it's only needed on imx8m+17:13
joschgetting rid of the qcacld packages should fix this17:13
joschyou should be able to do: sudo apt remove "reform-qcacld2*"17:16
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wakest666yay all back and working, thanks for the help. so it seems like we probably need a warning somewhere cause the mistake I made can't be too uncommon since it literally says thats what people should do in the handbook that everyone has17:26
minuteyeah i never remember that full-upgrade is even a thing :/17:49
joschminute: if you are never using Debian stable, then you should forget "apt upgrade" completely :)18:05
^alexahoy, we got our new charger board. do we have to upgrade the syscon before we install it? we should probably upgrade the syscon anyway, it's been a long time.18:05
minutejosch: uff!18:08
minute^alex: no, shouldn't be necessary18:09
joschminute: re reform-tools upload, the last reform-tools version had a bug. I uploaded the likely fix and am now testing a new system image: https://source.mnt.re/josch/reform-system-image/-/jobs/1887418:15
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joschminute: in the forum some users are exchanging recipes to restore their favourite keyboard backlight color on boot. reform-power-daemon manages the keyboard backlight brightness. should it also go into the business of setting/restoring the backlight color to a user-supplied rgb value?19:09
wakest666oh that would be so nice to have the color settings remembered across boots!19:35
joschyes, but making the color setting persistent could also be a function of the keyboard firmware instead -- the question is of architectural nature: which component should handle it? firmware or user-space?19:36
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minutejosch: the persistence is already a feature in the keyboard4-fw (big keyboard), it just needs to be ported i think23:39
joschokay, great!23:39

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