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| minute | josch: hm, looks like system image cannot be built atm? https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/21337 | 14:21 |
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| + FirefoxDeHuk (~FirefoxDe@user/FirefoxDeHuk) | 14:26 | |
| josch | is gitlab just slow for me today or for anybody else as well? | 14:27 |
| josch | ah it finally loaded -- took more than 3 minutes... | 14:27 |
| josch | minute: yes, there was an upload of libexttextcat yesterday and it cannot be installed because libexttextcat-data is missing: https://qa.debian.org/dose/debcheck/unstable_main/latest/packages/libexttextcat-2.0-0.html | 14:29 |
| josch | minute: if you need a quick image, try rebuilding it with testing as distro in your fork of it | 14:33 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@modemcable141.205-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) | 14:59 | |
| - FirefoxDeHuk (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~FirefoxDe@user/FirefoxDeHuk) | 15:12 | |
| josch | minute: it is this transition https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/auto-libexttextcat.html some packages (in our case we need libreoffice) have to be rebuilt with the new version of libexttextcat-dev and once that is in unstable, it will be installable again | 15:20 |
| minute | josch: gitlab was under siege again, because the ipset hash was full, i needed to resize it to 10 million entries | 16:05 |
| minute | josch: and no, we need a new deployment image but now we just use the older one and updated linux-image-mnt-reform-arm64 by hand | 16:06 |
| + talos6 (~talos@2600:6c5d:f0:1fd0:c2fb:9e75:221c:175b) | 16:08 | |
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| * talos6 -> talos | 16:11 | |
| josch | okay! | 16:55 |
| josch | minute: if you need a newer image, there is also the one produced by https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/merge_requests/152 | 16:56 |
| josch | That one is only four days old and the changes are mostly quasar specific, so they should not affect what you are selling right now. | 16:57 |
| lidstah | minute: does your ipset hash lists bans unique IP addresses or whole subnets? (although banning whole subnets can have adverse effects, ofc - especially with residential/ISP subnets. and there's the search engines crawlers subnets you'll want to whitelist too. quite painful at work here, we ended banning whole ASNs with selective whitelists (i.e aws/gcp/azure but not google and bing (sigh) | 18:45 |
| lidstah | search bots, for e.g. and electricity bill went back to pre-AI level, so 20%-25% less) | 18:45 |
| lidstah | (because an often overlooked side effect of being bombarded by AI scrapers requests is that they're the stupidest links followers and end up making everyone consume more energy to treat their requests) | 18:46 |
| minute | josch: yeah i needed the fix from friday for the classic reform panel. but it's manually done now anyway | 18:59 |
| minute | lidstah: yeah, the server has/had a lot more unnecessary load | 19:00 |
| lidstah | yeah, git forges tend to be hit harder it seems - I don't recall if it's codeberg or sourcehut who had an interesting article on the subject some monthes ago | 19:02 |
| lidstah | iirc, because the ai scrapers will not git clone a repo then do their thing, they'll follow each commit link of each repository | 19:03 |
| lidstah | at work they literraly poisoned our varnish cache cluster, ending up putting a lot of strain on the backends | 19:05 |
| lidstah | thus, around 30% CPU more used, at the scale of a cold corridor, the energy costs were not negligible | 19:06 |
| + stephano (~stephano@71.238.14.13) | 20:08 | |
| stephano | Anyone know if this is supposed to be CONFIG_VFAT_FS or if I'm just not aware of a CONFIG_VFAT option? https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/blob/main/linux/config?ref_type=heads#L110 | 20:10 |
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| * Guest3690 -> mjw | 20:10 | |
| + Guest7154 (~mjw@2001:1c06:2486:4600:5952:3a9:6e0e:555a) | 20:11 | |
| josch | stephano: you are right, the build log of reform-debian-packages has: | 20:14 |
| josch | debian/config/arm64/config: Unknown setting CONFIG_VFAT=y | 20:14 |
| josch | minute introduced this in ead30b31 with the comment: WIP add vfat support to kernel, still misses ASCII code page | 20:15 |
| josch | the Debian kernel by default already has CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m and CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=m | 20:15 |
| stephano | josch: Okay, thanks. Just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something in the Arch build. | 20:30 |
| minute | lidstah: yep, the crawlers are endlessly crawling a linux repo we have up via the web ui | 20:47 |
| minute | josch: ah sorry about the vfat thing, this was me struggling with initramfs once | 20:47 |
| minute | josch: but as we are no longer using fat for efi... | 20:48 |
| minute | weird, we have this quasar test system here and mysteriously all kernel modules disappeared from /lib/modules/7.0.10-mnt-reform-arm64 | 20:53 |
| minute | trying apt install --reinstall linux-modules-7.0.10-mnt-reform-arm64 | 20:55 |
| f_ | unrelated but does the IRC logger have search functionality? | 21:03 |
| f_ | ok I found what I needed | 21:08 |
| josch | minute: are you saying i should git revert that commit? | 21:15 |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~paperManu@modemcable141.205-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) | 21:18 | |
| minute | josch: sure | 21:21 |
| minute | josch: (if you mean the vfat thing) | 21:22 |
| josch | yes | 21:22 |
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| + voltaire28_ (~jlafon@28.162.2.93.rev.sfr.net) | 23:42 | |
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