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| amatecha | nice Esi you got a pocket reform?? :D | 07:21 |
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| Esi | Yup :D haha | 09:19 |
| Esi | amatecha: i am getting quite used to seeing you in all the same irc channels as me. Haha | 09:20 |
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| amatecha | niiice. hahaha as it has been for many years now! | 09:39 |
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| Esi | minute: you know... just wanted to note that if MNT ever makes a full on bag in the style of the MNT Pocket Reform holo sleeve I will buy it. day one. haha. | 10:56 |
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| elb | when my Pocket Reform is powered off, the Hyper+Enter b battery display is showing a drain of ~30-50 mA (it used to show zero); is this a difference in current draw, or a difference in measurement/display logic in recent firmwares? | 12:57 |
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| lidstah | is it me or is the hidden libera chat service (palladium) has some hiccups today? | 15:09 |
| lidstah | (and hi all, btw!) | 15:10 |
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| vagrantc | eesh. linux 7.1.x already EOL ... where did the time go? | 19:58 |
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| loon | wow, yeah. 7.1.13 released yesterday, EOL | 20:47 |
| simba | minute: I finally have access to my pocket reform again. I checked the contents of the initramfs, both KOs mnt-sc and panel-mnt-pocket-reform are present. I will update to the latest kernel, reboot and, if there is no improvement, check the kernel log for any hints. | 21:03 |
| minute | simba: ok cool! | 21:08 |
| minute | Esi: noted @ bag :D | 21:09 |
| Esi | <3 | 21:10 |
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| elb | uh if I want to upgrade the keyboard in my PR, is there any reason I shouldn't just get the standalone PR keyboard, then swap the keyboard modules between my PR and the standalone case? | 21:23 |
| elb | it looks like that's price competitive with buying just the internal parts | 21:23 |
| elb | is it just a PR keyboard 2.0 with the USB-C adapter? | 21:24 |
| minute | elb: yep | 21:31 |
| minute | elb: i mean you can have the internal one incl switches for 60 eur if you transfer your old keycaps... :D | 21:32 |
| minute | elb: but yeah if you swap the parts with the standalone then you can still use both keebs | 21:33 |
| elb | minute: well I kind of wanted to build a standalone anyway but didn't see the case for sale :-) | 21:33 |
| elb | this sounds like a Plan to me | 21:34 |
| elb | paychecks have restarted for the academic year, so here goes an order ;-) | 21:34 |
| minute | noice, thanks for your business! | 21:35 |
| elb | (I'm moving to MB 2.0, keyboard 2.0, and headset board 2.0) | 21:35 |
| elb | I had a scare weds, I thought I might have some kind of HDMI problem and was a little afraid I'd run afoul of the surface mount HDMI port failing | 21:36 |
| elb | but it turns out the teaching station in the classroom I was using had a bad HDMI cable | 21:36 |
| minute | sigrid: lol, a 9front slop port https://github.com/rcarmo/9front | 21:44 |
| minute | elb: ow oof! | 21:44 |
| minute | came there from https://github.com/rcarmo/haiku-arm64-build | 21:44 |
| minute | > Update: I have decided to archive the repository and stop all of my work around Haiku due to the project's irrational stance on LLMs and AI-assisted development. I see no point in wasting tokens (and time) on trying to use system that, depsite still giving me joy, has no coherent view towards keeping up with the times | 21:45 |
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| ^alex | good! | 21:48 |
| elb | I love haiku's stance | 21:49 |
| minute | yes, i didn't know that haiku was so cool, that's a big relief | 21:49 |
| aloo_shu | are 'the times' a source of coherence | 21:49 |
| elb | I wish it did run on arm64, but not at that cost | 21:49 |
| aloo_shu | question mark | 21:49 |
| minute | aloo_shu: lol i think the claudisms already sneaked into their own wording | 21:50 |
| minute | elb: it does run on arm64 | 21:50 |
| elb | I updated a haiku r5 core duo (not core 2 duo, even! 32-bit!) to r6 using the online SystemUpdater ... and it just worked | 21:50 |
| minute | elb: i ran it in qemu already, and i think it just needs a bit of massaging to work on our barebox UEFI thing | 21:51 |
| elb | minute: oh really! | 21:51 |
| elb | I thought arm64 was a qemu-only-and-doesn't-really-work status | 21:51 |
| minute | elb: no it's totally usable in qemu now already with emulated usb mouse! | 21:51 |
| elb | oh I see they have it up to 80% functional even on Apple Silicon | 21:51 |
| + marty (~marty@143.244.47.74) | 21:52 | |
| elb | I think I tried to run it on RPi most recently, and that still says barely functional on their status page | 21:52 |
| minute | elb: and i tried booting it on PR with barebox, it shows an error message related to interrupt cells, which i already tracked down/know what it's about, but didn't have time to hack on | 21:52 |
| elb | maybe I confused "RPi" for "ARM64 in general" | 21:52 |
| elb | wow that's awesome | 21:52 |
| elb | I wish I had time to hack these things :-\ | 21:52 |
| minute | elb: haiku only understands up to 2 arguments (cells) on devicetree irq nodes, but rk3588 dts has 3 on 2 power domains iirc, so that needs to be at least stubbed | 21:52 |
| aloo_shu | minute: I mean that's super hard to avoid, I catch myself with ai-like phraselets because it's intuitively intelligent to imitate what you see people engage with, and eloquence makes people go "what", it's a drain | 21:53 |
| elb | I try hard not to pick up too much slang in general, because I teach college students, so the half-life for any given slang that I'm absolutely SURROUNDED with is measured in months | 21:54 |
| elb | the entire population refreshes in four year rolling windows, so ;-) | 21:55 |
| sigrid | minute: holy hell. the number of 9slop is increasing. this in particular features idiocy such as make instead of mk! | 21:55 |
| elb | I'm honestly surprised there's any significant overlap with slop and plan9 | 21:57 |
| sigrid | slop is the new rule 34 but for code/software | 21:58 |
| ^alex | the suckless people, notable plan9 likers, are software fascists, it doesn't surprise us | 21:58 |
| sigrid | I'd say it's strange if they like it, why don't they use it too | 21:59 |
| spew | suckless aside, plan 9 already has its own history of fascist users | 22:02 |
| spew | a pretty long history | 22:02 |
| elb | I don't know anything about that, it just seems (as someone who first encountered plan 9 in the vita nuova/inferno days) that the philosophy of plan 9 as a development environment is pretty antithetical to slop and vibe coding | 22:06 |
| spew | it seems good technical sense does not translate into any kind of political awareness | 22:12 |
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| minute | sigrid: 9gpt | 22:20 |
| sigrid | it's worse than you think, minute. https://github.com/dharmatech/agent9 | 22:22 |
| minute | sigrid: gah, some people just have no taste | 22:23 |
| minute | fwiw the retrocomputing scene is also pretty sloppified now it seems | 22:24 |
| minute | 5.25" sloppy disk | 22:24 |
| minute | ok i should get back to finishing this handbook | 22:25 |
| josch | much success!! _o/ | 22:25 |
| minute | josch: thanks! i just made/adapted the cover, only preface missing | 22:26 |
| josch | sweet :) | 22:26 |
| josch | https://mister-muffin.de/p/p_0A.jpg | 22:31 |
| josch | my phd thesis and the pocket reform handbook are the only books in my shelf with my name in it -- the pocket reform handbook currently is at the front. Makes way more important discussion topic when people are over. :) | 22:32 |
| f_ | yeah haiku is awesome :D | 22:35 |
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| Esi | i should daily drive haiku | 22:49 |
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